Bunny Hopping is out of control

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat 360 Feedback and Issues' started by ObiFett, September 8, 2010.

  1. ObiFett

    ObiFett New Member

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    One skill that many players have developed is to constantly Bunny Hop around the arena. I was in a game where one Assault player never stopped jumping. The problem is that there is little reason to not jump around like a crazy person and LOTS of reasons to jump around.

    Reasons to Bunny Hop constantly:
    • 1) Can't be grappled by an Assassin
      2) Much harder to headshot
      3) Avoid Eliminators and Gunner's Slam
      4) Playing Support and using the Hurt/Heal Gun

    Reason to not Bunny Hop constantly:
    • 1) You lose minor control of where you are aiming

    Because Bunny Hopping gives you immunity to nearly two classes (sniper and assassin) and makes the game look ridiculous, there should at least be a little downside to it.

    How to fix: All guns lose 100% accuracy (reticule becomes much bigger) and the Heal/Hurt Gun loses its lock on when jumping (not using jump jets).

    Otherwise, I can see this game devolving into everyone jumping around all the time. Not sure anyone wants that.
  2. tlbww

    tlbww New Member

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    The problem here is that people are getting too good. Everyone needs to nerf themselves so this gentlemen can score a kill in his 0/22 ratio.
  3. ObiFett

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    That was the most unproductive response I have seen in a long time. Thanks!

    Not that it should matter but my current K/D ratio is 1.86 ( with more assists than deaths as well). I usually play with friends and we usually win.

    I enjoy the game, but there are things the developers need to watch for. Thats why I am bringing up the constant bunny hopping. It makes the game look silly and adds an unneeded/ridiculous element to the game. I want this game to continue to succeed and for new people to be drawn to it. If I were a new player, downloaded the demo and saw people bunny hopping all over the place, I would probably not want to play the game anymore.

    What's your opinion tlbww? Or would you rather to continue to make ad hominem arguments instead of discussing the issue?
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  4. Vike113

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    Wait... Is jumping while using the hurt gun skill?

    @OP Indeed. It's stupid and should be reworked.
  5. Bambam Bm

    Bambam Bm New Member

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    If you also noticed, if you walk, or jump backwards, its the same speed as if you walk forward (not dash). Shouldn't there be a speed penalty for walking/jumping backwards?
  6. UberGunner

    UberGunner New Member

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    Why should there be a movement penalty for moving backwards? I always thought that was a stupid game mechanic.
  7. bdcjacko

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    I would prefer just a skin change to the supports by giving them rabbit ear and buck teeth and continue to play the game as normal. I believe that would solve the problem.
  8. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    While we are at it lets change the whole game and put a new title on it.
  9. mipegg

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    Supports might be quite bad for it but the worse culprits I see are assaults and snipers. Dont forget that bunny hopping seems to completely mess the hit registrations up. Iv noticed it on the tank, you get a bunny hopping assault and all you hear it 'ts ts ts ts ts' of hit after hit but hes taking not damage.
  10. bdcjacko

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    Finally someone is talking sense. Let call it Call of Battle, replace all the bright colors with brown and gray, and allow spawn camping, and encourage griefing.
  11. ObiFett

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    Who in this thread is actually asking for this game to be anything like Call of Duty?

    No one.

    What is happening is that I have seen a hole in the gameplay and am asking for it to be plugged up.

    No one has given a legitimate reason as to why they LIKE that all skilled players jump around endlessly. No one has given a reason as to how everyone jumping around like crazy will help bring in new players. No one has addressed that when pros continuously jump in this game they completely negate one entire class, with zero drawbacks to themselves.

    Basically, no one has actually given a reason why fixing this would be anything other than GREAT for the current and future state of the game.

    Instead we have people acting like pointing out holes to help the developers improve their game is ridiculous. Let's all just post threads saying how perfect the game is and how nothing needs to be fixed. :roll:
  12. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    Noone gave reasons because, apparently, they don't think it's game breaking. I mean when a Dev says a good way to avoid a back grapple from an Assassin is jumping then that would imply it was intended to be that way. So people are hoping around. Evolve around it. I use jumping to avoid back grapples, Gunner Slam and Ejectors. Would you rather me not do that to please you?
  13. ObiFett

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    I understand its uses and pros need to be able to jump for the reasons you posted.

    BUT, because it negates an entire Class and serves so many other uses, many elite players (including myself when I am playing Gunner) mindlessly jump the entire match and never stop.

    You don't think there is something wrong with that? You think the developers intended for all the pros (outside of camping snipers and assassins) to be be constantly pressing the jump button so the game looks like a bunch of rabbits trying to shoot each other?
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  14. Mutated Muskrat

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    Great, one more skill I need to develop....I thought the days of bunny hopping idiots were over for shooters..apparently not.

    I do admit that I find the bunny hopping mechanic to be idiotic and have always wished..in every game it occurs in..that there was a way to stop it. It is effective but totally lame.
  15. mipegg

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    Its not that bunny hopping makes it harder to aim at or anything. It just makes you half invincible by messing up with the hit registration
  16. bdcjacko

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    Nice way to entirely miss my point. I was agreeing that the bunny hopping is basically a cheap/cheesy griefing strategy and is annoying as hell.
  17. ObiFett

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    :oops:
    My bad, bdcjacko, I thought you were agreeing with him that we shouldn't change anything.

    Sorry again.
  18. Red Rain

    Red Rain New Member

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    THIS THIS THIS
  19. Vigil80

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    I've always hated bunny hopping in any game. It's cheap and ridiculous.

    Unfortunately, I don't see any gameplay changes as major as what's suggested here ever happening. The game's done. From here on out we'll do well to have a steady stream of glitch and balance fixes, and a couple DLC map packs.

    Hold out hope for MNC 2.
  20. D3C3P7AKONZ

    D3C3P7AKONZ New Member

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    As a suport player with no jetpack booster or super jump this is really our only defensive movement we have so ill keep bunny hopping thanks

    thats right round in circles round my firebase dropping airstrike's screaming like mario

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