Buff Lazer Blazers

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat PC Discussion' started by Providence, January 10, 2011.

  1. Providence

    Providence New Member

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    There's absolutely no reason to make these. Rock-it is high damage and tanky. Longshot is long range and splash. Shave ice has slow. What does lazer blazers have besides being cheap? In reality, they aren't cost efficient because they die easily and give opposing team money.
    Some ideas to make them more viable:

    1) cheaper
    2) upgrade faster
    3) more range
    4) more attack speed, level 3 rock-it seems to attack almost as fast as level 3 LB while doing far superior damage
    3) applies a status effect like burning or skill drain

    I don't think they should be any more tanky as that would intrude on the rock-it.
  2. Rammite

    Rammite New Member

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    Lazer Blazers are made to be the "bad" turret.

    They're only good as a last-resort turret, and that's all they should be.
  3. Mibuwolf

    Mibuwolf New Member

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    Actually, they aren't even worth the time and effort and money put into them though.

    So why have a turret option thats just plain unusable. It just dies too fast.
  4. zarakon

    zarakon Active Member

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    I say get rid of the first 1 or 2 levels of it. Lv3 is decent, except for the fact that there are no further upgrades possible that would make it competitive with the dominant Lv3 rockit. Give it another 1 or 2 upgrades and it might be useful.
  5. Xx Tikki xX

    Xx Tikki xX New Member

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    you do understand that the Rockit turret is meant to be the best as it costs so much.......and lazers are good for weaking bots and taking some out, but they aren't great because of there price....
  6. Myst

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    Playing with the LB damage/cost/range/etc might imbalance early stages of Blitz...Debuffs vs pros sounds like a really good way around that though
    What about juice drain? Could either drain a "normal" pros juice meter, or make it drain a juiced pro's meter a lot faster?
  7. zarakon

    zarakon Active Member

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    Even in blitz, there's very little reason to ever build anything but rockits and possibly a shaveice.
  8. Providence

    Providence New Member

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    What is this.. I don't even... rockit turret is more efficient for the cost than lazers........... level 1 rockit is better than level 3 lazer at weakening bots and taking them out........... does more damage and more health, and they cost less
  9. Mibuwolf

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    Exactly what I was about to say. Either add a couple more levels to the lazer blazer, or just remove it... the price is silly to have something so weak. Rocket turret lvl 1 is much better than any lvl of lazer blazer.
  10. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    Lazer Blazers are fine - buff the idiots that build them.
  11. zarakon

    zarakon Active Member

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    so.. you agree that they shouldn't be built, but you say that they're fine that way? you like that the ideal base is a completely 1-dimensional mass of rockit turrets?
  12. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    I often use LS, and have been experimenting with Ice and seeing some nice results with them.

    Turrets aren't just a defensive object. The ideal base is a completely 1-dimensional mass of Longshots because ideally your team should be rolling everything and penning the enemy in their base.

    That said, my post on buffing the idiots that build them was a piss take - on the people that build Blazers in the worst times and positions. Evidently, the ability to discern humour from written media also needs to be buffed.
  13. Mibuwolf

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    Oh, I get it now... he's trying to be funny... like in a sarcastic way... :lol:





    j/k, I know he missed it, but I got what you were getting at. :lol:
  14. Polynomial

    Polynomial Moderator Alumni

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    I do. Lazer turre(n)ts suck unless you're building them straight to 3rd level.
  15. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    Lazer Blazers have a faster rate of fire and or more accurate then Rock-It turrets.
  16. Polynomial

    Polynomial Moderator Alumni

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    Lazer turrets die before anyone can do anything about it. Unless they're 3rd level because then they have hit detection bugs!

    Too many people buy lazers within the first minute because of extra money. Its not worth it. Especially on say, Ammo Mule.
  17. Mibuwolf

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    Doesn't help if most everybody can destroy a lvl 1 or 2 LB without trying. Level 3 will slow some players down and focus fire further away which makes em an easy target, however they still lack armor and hp.
  18. jack-novius

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    I myself perfer Rockit Jackets over Lazer Blazers as they provide more bang for your buck.
  19. Vleessjuu

    Vleessjuu New Member

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    Do laser blazers on PC also give juice to deploy tanks insanely fast as they do on the Xbox? If so, that would be the prime reason not to build them.

    The real problem with laser blazers is that they take up a turret nub that could be used for something better. And if it gets killed, it only gives the enemy money. So I'd say that killing a LB should give you less money, for starters. Like, say, 10/12/15 bucks for lvl. 1/2/3. Second of all, what if LBs would be much more effective against pros while rockits would be tuned towards bots? Or the other way around, if you want. That might be interesting. In that case, LBs should get a little bump in cost and they would be roughly equal to Rockits, except that both have different targets against which they are effective.
  20. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    Those changes were basically made in the Spunky Cola Special DLC.
    http://www.uberent.com/blog/2010/11/spu ... ember-1st/

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