Big Question: Is it only us or do you have financial problems?

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by radongog, November 2, 2014.

  1. radongog

    radongog Well-Known Member

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    First of all: This is NOT a joke---this is a total serious question.
    We all behave like its completely clear that you´ve got serious financial problems---> kinda Armageddon-Athmo after HR failed and so on.
    But: Do you really have financial problems? (like: Not enough money to continue to support PA more than six months right now) Or was HR only the way you´d like to go, the way that doesn´t include layoffs and so on? (as you won´t pay one and a half team if you are only working on one game)

    So, in general: Answer that question first, so we could sit down together and discuss ways like this one:
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/how-would-you-feel-about-a-second-pa-kickstarter.65409/
  2. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    A company is not going to discuss their financial business on their own forums.
  3. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    Yep.

    Unfortunately. But also fortunately.
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  4. cptconundrum

    cptconundrum Post Master General

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    The good news is that Uber has done some of its best work when it had almost no money at all.
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  5. radongog

    radongog Well-Known Member

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    It´s a company that has done a successful crowdfunding campaign---> I´m sure that should change a few things, doesn´t it?

    And, on top of that: If they need support, they´ll have to scream for help! Otherwise we won´t be able to help them...
    ...as proberbly nobody will take them serious!
  6. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    Well, I guess they would feel more comfortable discussing things if HR was successful. Do I wish they discussed their financial business here? No. But, do I want to know how they're doing? Yes.

    This kind of stuff tends to be confidential.
  7. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    It's also vital to their survival as a company. Competitors (or anyone with a big enough reason) could put them in a very difficult position if they revealed their financial standing on a project.
  8. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    Yeah, and the interwebs spread things like this faster than ludicrous speed.
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  9. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    I agree that there is no need to discuss wild theories on Uber's financial situation here, but:

    All these companies making RTS games... all these companies making TA-style games...

    <sarcasm>Damn soooo many of them</sarcasm>

    :(

    can't wait to see Wargaming.net to finally reveal what they are doing with the TA-IP
  10. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    (or anyone who hates Uber)

    Unfortunately.
  11. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    Confidentiality is all good and that, but, if u are going broke and you don't ask for money, then the result is already defined. Confidentiality wont mean crap if your studio closes down.

    On the other hand, it's also hard to be taken seriously if you declare that you are gong broke cause people see you as a sinking ship.

    So by my analysis you would only reveal such a thing if it was your last option. But i think the community is saying that it is a option for them.

    I remember Scathis saying in a recent interview that the kickstarter money only lasted until alpha, so they are probably living with the money from sales that should be diminishing by now, so my guess it that not even them know exactly in how deep they are since they cant predict how much PA (their main money maker) will sale in each given month.
  12. MrTBSC

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    whatever wargaming will do with the ta ip ... it likely will not throw me of the chair ...
    i rather hoped for kings and castles to finaly be a thing ..
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  13. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    What's this TA IP i'm now hearing about?
  14. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    I guess it is your right to ask. But it should be pretty obvious, that business politics isn't something that benefits talking openly about (do you want to know how much money EA makes by killing all your favorites and instead making sports games?).

    I would safely assume, they can not get any benefit out of too large of a team on just a single mostly done game, although bgolus did say they could get benefit I would assume it probably isn't longterm beneficial. Thus, going with a smaller team will get a lot of development done, and most importantly make development sustainable for longer.

    Although, just think about it, Human Resources would have kept the team that was dropping off, working on the Uber Engine in parallel, with another game using the exact opposite features. Wouldn't expanding the work of the game design, be better than compressing it? Big opportunity missed.
  15. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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  16. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    I think before you start theorising you should ask yourself how much first-hand experience you personally have at running the economic side of a company that makes games.
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  17. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    I don't think no one is saying he knows how to run Uber. I think it is his way of saying that if you are in trouble and need help, there is no shame in asking for it, and that community is worried and would try to help if that were the case.

    IMO there is nothing wrong in asking someone if they are alright if your intent is to help.
  18. brandonpotter

    brandonpotter Well-Known Member

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    If they had a financial issue...they would release more commanders at a time then they are now. LOL.
  19. Raevn

    Raevn Moderator Alumni

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    I imagine they are releasing them as fast as they can, both from a modelling point of view and probably the bigger component, which is the communication and back-and-forth between the backers and Uber until the final model is agreed on. Also, the backers have to agree to them being put up for sale.
  20. Dementiurge

    Dementiurge Post Master General

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    Having financial problems is the state of being in business. When THQ died, it didn't go quietly: It was in the midst of developing at least two major titles.

    I suspect that Uber is the opposite. By staying away from developing a project with an uncertain future (HR) and laying off unnecessary personnel, they've lightened the load until they can figure out a new project and develop its pitch. Somewhere between sinking and soaring, a company can float.


    And PA just got a ladder! How did I miss this?
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