Better in game tips?

Could we get some more serious tips instead of the ones we have already?

Ex : - Assault does more damage while he's zooming/using iron sight (could be reformulated, Coverop told me about this).
- You can melee bots and pros by pressing the "*button*", it will award juice if hit!
- Bacon gives you all the gold endorsements instantly, be carefull to not die.
- etc

Your extreme OCD concerns me. Really these are the "NO ****" kind of tips that I think should be thrown out of all shooters permanently.

Well some of the tips are misleading or abstract.

The tip about bacon claims to upgrade your skills permanently.
In fact, it only lasts until you die.

Some of them have grammatical errors. Some have periods and some do not.

Pros are rewarded for taunting after a kill?
Yes? And how is that?
We always get money when taunting. What else do we get?


L. Spiro

Indeed.

I find the lack of both clarity and grammar in many of the tips disturbing. There is also a lack for really useful tips new and semi-experienced players could use.

I know that this is for the players to figure out but I ended up in an argument with another player for setting up a lazer blazer in steel peel. He contended that they were cheap and durable enough for the moment. Unfortunately the opposing team held off on killing the lazer until they were ready to push and then we did not have the proper defenses when the bots came rolling in.

It seems to me that a tip saying "Lazer Blazers are not very durable but cheap" Or even better "Rocket turrets can be stronger and durable in the long run" would sum up the moral of the situation.

Never pet a burning dog

D:

I totaly don't know what are you using OCD, which mean Obsessive Compulsive Disorder and haves nothing to do with this. HAYOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO

He needs everything that doesn't matter to be perfect. That's OCD.

And Bro's post was pretty funneh.

Tips, tricks & tutorials give you a bit of info, but in the long run it's worth ****.

Pretty much just false hope to the new players, giving them hope of knowing how to work with the game. None of the **** sticks anyways when you give it the easy way. Learn by doing or don't learn at all.

Why not? It would help a bit new players, let's say that there is something that they don't know, if they are lucky the tip with the necessary info will it come up and now they will it know how to do certain things better or what's the use of it.
Other people played the game from beta/release and pretty much know everything (almost), but any new players will it have a hard time to understand the basics of the game, it's already pretty wierd at the start but they may start with some knowlege. Even if they aren't skilled, who cares about that.
Even a small tip as "Cloack is fu***** useless unless at level 3" or "To hack an enemy turret you need X hack level" (at wich level can you hack enemy turrets anyway?) would be helpful :mrgreen: .

Not sure how to explain myself but in the end, what's so bad about having more serious tips instead of silly ones?

Let me try explaining in another way.
You know how, if you really work hard at figuring out how to do something, When you finally figure it out, it's stuck to your memory forever, even if it may be small tips. Familiarizing these tips and tricks with certain experiences in game is more or less the only proper way to make it stick.

But people don't play after they get ownage (the newbies). That's why I'm worried about them.
If they won't get informations (by video , by adding tips , by making tutorial) they will throw this game away....because they will think that people are cheating.

This.

The great scourge of MNC.

New players not understanding normal tactics that are not explained. For instance I hate when new players cannot understand that Assassins cloak can be heard.

I am accused of cheating every time I clutch passive with Tank and magically get full health in the middle of a firefight.


It is sad but true. Newbies think about cheats before they think about unknown abilities, or sometimes even about high skills.

My friend L. Matin even asked me why people dominated him so badly at the start.
I had to actually explain that level does not mean more power. You all have the same power, but they have played longer. But if you are good you can still beat a player of any level.


Not knowing the meanings of levels, many players are turned off from the start, because they feel that they are losing to inferior players who win only because they have played longer and gotten higher stats.

L. Matin was about to quit this game until I explained that.
When I explained that he has just as much of a chance to kill a level-99 troll as anyone else, he was suddenly interested and motivated again.



Funny tips are fine, but some information needs to be taken more seriously, and some important information is lacking.



If you see a player suddenly gain full health, he or she probably is a Tank who clutched his or her passive.
Levels do not grant a player more power in a game. A level-0 player has an equal chance at killing a level-99 player as a level-98 player does.


L. Spiro

It would be borderline desperate for Uber to actually reach out to people in that manner. They delivered an awesome game, play it or don't. I'd rather see the game die, than fill it up with extreme numbers of ignorant kids that don't comprehend the possibilities of the game and simply start crying again.. yes, that is what will happen. Give them the answers and they'll stop seeking.

I feel guilty sometimes when I help newbies that little bit too much.

It has recently gotten frustrating so I'm giving up on helping people other than useful tips ingame and a small video project.

It hurts how bad some people are and it hurts to see people with potential not make the links in logic or not try to reach out for help.

I can put together a little program that sits in the background and types predefined tips into your chat box when you hit a hotkey.
That way you can insta-type your own tips.

If people show interest in having such a tool.


L. Spiro

That is AWESOME.

If you can do that getting newbies to learn "Grenade launcher on bots" will not be that hard. I have trouble assessing their skill level though.

If it appeals to a larger audience, I can have one hotkey for tips, one for taunts, one for funny things you might say after doing something stupid such as charging off a cliff, etc.


L. Spiro