Any new PC threads?

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by F5in, April 17, 2011.

  1. F5in

    F5in New Member

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    I want a new PC and I can't decide between buying parts and an OS or buying it pre-built. I'm probably going to buy parts, in which case I'd love a guide. Tried Googling a few things but I'm not really sure what I'm looking for so it didn't help. >_>
  2. BroTranquilty

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    Generally, if you plan on playing MNC-like games on a PC, it doesn't have to be too bad.

    Tips for Getting a PC like Aforementioned:

    ~Hard Drive isn't too terribly important. 250gig or even less should do. Many people get terabytes of memory because they are amazed at the size of it (as am I, I still remember all of the NES's games fitting on half a gig or less). Many people don't know how to fill up a quarter of a terabyte without trying their *** off.

    ~Graphics can be integrated, I hear nowadays more than ever, but if you can find a somewhat cheap graphics that isn't integrated, its perferable. If you do get something with integrated graphics, it is less upgradeable in the future, and you need lots of ram to comphensate.

    ~Ram should be fairly high, second important to CPU. To run MNC minimally, you need 2gig. Usually, you can fit 2-4 ram cards in your machine, but they have to be either ddr2 or ddr3 but not both usually. Ram cards can usually be up to 2gig each, but some motherboards like mine only support 1gig each. Shouldn't be a problem to get decent ram on a fairly new computer (or for it to be upgradeable).

    ~CPU is usually most important. If you can get a dual core, you meet minimum requirements. More core are better. Usually don't need more than 4. But you know what they say, NEVER go celeron.

    ~THEN, you have to worry about your brand. Sometimes it matters. No offence, but Toshiba are usually picky about parts, but simple to maintain, wipe, reboot, use, aquire, and sometimes are cheap. I have a toshiba lol. Dell is name-brand, high end but pricy even for what it actually is. Middle ground, and my favorite, is hp or compaqs by hp, which are moderate priced and not picky on upgrade parts, but very vanilla in use or starting parts. You don't have to do the upgrades yourself, but it may be worth getting something that won't need upgrading if you don't feel comfortable opening computers though.

    ~Summing it up, reguarless what you want, you should definitely just make sure it has 2gb or 4gb ram (4gb would run smooth), dual or triple core processor (triple should run smooth), and integrated graphics will run a game with texture and shadows low but cheap nonintegraed run so much better. In terms of minimum requirements, get either good ram or cpu, and integrated graphics, and you wont complain for a few months. Get something you can upgrade, which means non-integrated graphics, and that shouldn't be a problem in a few months either. Get something with all great but not amazing pieces, and you shouldn't complain for quite some time.

    If I would buy a laptop or desktop (laptops suck lolz), I would get an dual core, 2gb ram, and cheap non-integrated graphics, and manage with that until I got $80-120 here and there and upgraded it. If you don't want to touch your computer again after you get it, then go cheap like toshiba, just make sure it has 4gb ram, 2-3 core processor, and cheap non-integrated graphics already.

    ONE LAST THING: I strongly recommend against E-Machines. So many problems. They are cheapest, but so many problems.
  3. BroTranquilty

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    Reading the above gives you ideas on what each part does as far as speed for gaming, but if you are going to get parts based on this knowledge...

    newegg.com has gone downhill to be frank, but I would consider it usually good to shop and reliable.

    If you aren't getting a pre-build computer, get a motherboard that looks really dynamic. Look under details, see if it has the right ports for enough memory or the right cpu, and make sure it isn't picky about parts. Get a motherboard that is a "safe" bet, get the above parts to make it run good enough, get a cheap xp or vista operating system, and you should be good to go.

    Try ordering everything together and follow rules carefully to assemble things to the motherboard and tower in order. Google some guide before you start.
  4. Vlane

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    Integrated graphic chip = bad
    I would not even recommend the AMD one even though it's pretty good.

    Graphics card are cheap and good nowadays so I don't see any reason not to buy one.
  5. BroTranquilty

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    Really, I agree. If you want to upgrade, don't get integrated graphics, and if you don't want to upgrade, dont get integrated graphics. Still, they do work if you want a computer that costs a single month's salary.
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    Yeah, that's actually pretty solid.

    As he was discussing early on, the 2500K/2600K is more or less on par with the previous-gen 950X/980X, and costs a helluva lot less. I guess Intel is intentionally trying to crowd out their older stuff with Sandy Bridge things.

    I await the day where Clevo pushes crappy Alienware, Toshiba, ASUS, and HP gaming laptops the hell off the market with their superior build tech.
  8. Vlane

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    Completely off topic but: Are there any Sandy Bridge motherboards out there without the SATA bug?

    And yes, the Sandy Bride CPUs are great.
  9. BroTranquilty

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    TBH, never heard of this stuff, but i'll do my research ;)

    I might do something like this myself. Built a computer for a friend who wanted a slightly cheaper version of an amazing Dell computer. It was a hundred or more less than a dell, a bit of quirky glitches in booting, and highly powerful by today's standards. He still spend 2 months salary on it, but it could have been 2 1/2.

    If I could make something fast, even if not lightning fast like his, for under 500, I'll be fine.

    This generic sandy bridge stuff looks solid. Definitely interested. See, the PC forum here is useful :) apparently I just know how to fix these damn things, not how to build them to run video games. I know what RAM and ROM is, but nothing about available hardware to build with obviously.
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    My friend's uncle is selling a comp he built for $400/$450 that ran WoW flawlessly on highest settings. Is that good? I'll obviously have to get the specs but it sounds pretty damn good to me.
  11. Vlane

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    Depends on what you want to do with your PC. If you want to play a lot of games you don't have to spend a lot on the CPU but rather on the graphics card.

    F5in: Post the specs first.
  12. BroTranquilty

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    Also, CPUs are fairly surely upgradeable, and can be loop-holed to get games to run (run rest of computer at bare minimum processes). I never thought graphics had to be too good to actually run a game fast, just good-looking. RAM has to at least have enough to hold the game's process.

    But yes F5, please show us the specs, but it most likely would run things. Actually, the more info you get the better, because if it is a custom computer then it may be important for the motherboard to have room for upgrading.
  13. Vlane

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    Games take a lot of processing power, yes, but we are at a point where a CPU is the most bored part in a PC.

    Example: I run Crysis 2 with the extreme settings yet my CPU never goes over 40% in that game.
    My graphics card on the other hand struggles a bit (when **** gets serious I get like 45 FPS instead of 60-80).

    That's why in most games (note: most games, not all of them) you profit more from a good graphics card than a CPU.
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    The 1155-socket thing was ironed out over a month ago (Intel acknowledged it real quick-like and fixed it just as fast), so I doubt you'd be able to find any of the faulty mobos still on the market, at this point.

    I was thinking about getting a desktop for the longest time but I think I'll probably spend a few extra Benjamins to get myself a boutique DTR from Sager, DigitalStorm, or Malibal (all Clevo resellers)
  15. F5in

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    Okay, so the plan with my friend's uncle didn't fall through (do they ever?) and my brother recommended me to a website. Will this run what I want it to?
    http://www.cyberpowerpc.com/system/Gamer_Ultra_7500/

    EDIT: Decided that this will be my PC, now all I need is a monitor.
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    Sooo... Got a monitor and ordered it, then someone pointed out that the graphics card is the lowest possible series 5 one.


    Then I was like ****

    I'm not sure if you can cancel/edit orders from this site.
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    I have doubts about that cards ability to play Monday Night Combat on max settings, but I assume you were referring to watching porn, in which case it should be fine.

    By the way my PC makes new threads constantly!


    L. Spiro
  18. mintycrys

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    yeah, buy a cheap graphics card, get what you pay for. :/

    For MNC, I would've gotten a GeForce GTX 460 at a minimum, though the 570 is what I would aim for. It costs as much as a console, but is just healthy.
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    I called them this morning to change the order to the 5770 model and they were closed. This could be a good thing as it could mean they didn't send/build anything yet. I'm going to continue calling them throughout the day in order to change the order.
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    So I ended up calling them yesterday and they said that they didn't accept foreign credit cards (my aunt in Australia, even though the card is American Express) and even if they did, they ship to the address on the card. Sort of a good thing because I was doubting my choice anyway.

    Made at topic at GameFAQs PC board and they upgraded the Gamer Ultra 7500 to cost $1,100, then someone built the same thing on eCollegePC for a bit over $900 (including Windows 7 and a monitor)

    [​IMG]

    Yeah... Definitely getting this. I may not get that monitor but I don't want a super expensive one and it looks good enough.

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