guidance needed : how many ai's can my pc handle in the 'battlefield' system?

i5-3570k
16gb ram no page
dual gtx670 slight oc
running off sandisk extreme (not that it matters)

i am getting refrence memory crashes. just wondering what the max safe number of ai's is?

I think its more like number of planets, not number of AI's

Probably many, but that does not mean it can handle too many units, and even a 1v1 can contain many units...

ok... so whats the biggest system my pc can handle?

Why no pagefile?

A decent sized map, don't go crazy with like 11 planets or anuthing. It really depends on the size of the planets and how many there are. Remember though, a size 1000 is not twice as big as a size 500, it's four times as big, because of surface area.

No matter how much ram you have, PA just does not like to run without a pagefile, dont ask me why.

I do know that if you turn on your pagefile and give it a couple gigs it will run and you will stop getting errors.

don't like the notion of performance loss on hdd or wearing down my ssd. with 16gb, unless a game has leaks; it shouldnt be an issue. and if it is, thats a good indicator that i need to change some game settings.

There is some indiciation that having no/too small page file causes memory crashes.
SSX wrote about it on the steam support forum.

This

and this.


stop whining about the SSD.

mine doesn't seem to care.

whose whining, it was an honest question.

edit: also, the pax2014 map with me and 5 ai's didn't give me any memory problems but time and ui did freeze eventually, before i captured that laser planet

Also, doesn't matter more about what ubers servers can run properly now that we have 8 games a server?

as far as i can see, with such a configuration, you're more likely to first experience a sim slowdown on the server, especially since having more AIs means more units in game. And so far, I'm always experiencing sim slowdown (all related to navigation - pathing i guess - as systematically reported by the debug sim window). This especially happening when moving a few hundreds of bots alltogether. Really hope there's room for improvement, because, on the one hand we've been told many single units patrolling required a single flowfield for each unit and grouping them would improve response time, but on the other hand, when i'm moving a single bunch of units, i'm only using a single flowfield (if i got it correctly).