Reckless use of grapples should be punished.

Like the thread name says: I think the person whoever failed to grapple his opponent to be punished
by some sort of cooldown on his secondary weapon grapples. :geek:

It would force careful use of grappling. Which I think this game lacks due to the huge armor boost you
get while grappling and the ability to just spam your grapple till you succeed.

Another way would be to completely remove the armor boost except for ability-grapples.

Just my 2 cents. :|

I wouldn't mind a SMALL cooldown (1 - 2 seconds) on grapple just to prevent grapple spam, but I don't really mind it either, though I play assault 90% of the time so I can just hover to avoid it anyways. :3

grapples do have cooldowns if you miss, iirc

Grapples are punished if used recklessly, its about a 1 second CD where if you miss your grapple you are unable to do anything except move/jump.

Its not a terribly effective punishment, but it is there.

Effective enough to cause death for an assassin, escape for anyone else, and plenty to follow a grapple with your own grapple.

However, some classes have two grapples. Gunners and snipers both have a skill grapple and a secondary grapple. They can use the lvl1 red-skill-grapple, followed by a secondary weapon grapple. Very effective for buying time, like on juicers.

Sounds like a 'take-your-turn' RPG.

Seems like the time wasted is punishment enough. If you didn't see them beforehand, they just gave away their biggest advantage. If you saw them beforehand, whats the problem?

They're giving you time to blast them in the face. Take advantage of that.

Well that's a first. A suggestion someone wanted is already in the game. Good job Uber! You guys sure work fast!

Hm, just ran a few games and tried it out. Wasn't aware that the little "animation" WAS the cooldown. I always thought it was the entire grapple duration.

My bad. :?

But I still think the armor buff should be removed during grapples. :|

Why? A Gunner and Tank can already kill an Assassin even with the so called buff. Now you think it should be removed?

I always do it the other way around: first secondary alternate grapple, then the skill grapple to throw them away.