Draws and Win/Loss

We used to have draws, and I think we should get them back.

If Player A destroys Player B's Commander, but Player A dies in the resulting explosion, that's not a win. That's everyone losing. Player A cannot continue to fulfill his mission of annihilating other planets.

The reasons for this are rather obvious. First, it makes more sense. Second, it makes for some very interesting finishes and prevents people from rushing into no-win scenarios, losing, but getting a "win."

+1 I was wondering why it said "You lost" when i suicided my com into enemy com, obliterating everything...

EDIT: Suicide using planet-smash

Because you were the first to die, competitive sports would still consider it a loss anyway.

Why would they consider it a loss?

It shouldn't be considered a loss, it should be a draw because the "winner" is still dead and cannot go fight more opponents. It'd be like an old fashioned duel where both people die, but one person dies before the other. That's not a win, that's both people losing.

Also, i watched the replay, and my commander was on the side of the planet that did not hit the enemy com first... So He must have died first.

The same reason someone who dgunned the enemy com was considered the Loser (the enemy com explosion killed him too) it's basically stating defeat, and suiciding..

The enemy should have the time from that their last com die til the end screen to kill your last com in order for it to be a draw.

failing to survive is still failing ... simple as that ...

Agreed.

Can't wage more war if you 'splode.

Eh.
I could live with or without it, honestly.

I am one for draws...if they blow your comm up and you still have a quick boom-bot kill before all your stuff dramatically is completely blown then that would be cool to see players going last ditch effort for draws...also planet smashing...not sure who wins either...call a draw on that

I am not quite sure about the current state, but a few month back we actually did not have working draws. I added code to PA Stats to try and fix it, I think that code is still live. It never really worked very reliable though.

Yeah. I remember encountering draws in the past.

I'd love to get it back.

+1 for draws.

One thing I really like in PA is that there is a delay between the commander dying and all his stuff detonating, particularly the way that they don't all die at once. The staggered and seemingly random nature of it brings to mind some sort of catastrophic system failure. It also means that there can be a considerable amount of time between the commander going pop and his last unit dying - if the survivor is killed in this period then hell yeah, it should be a draw!

+1

When you have to suicide to win, it's definitely not a victory.

The code is still working, but PAStats is no longer affecting the stats screen.

That's what I'm trying to say, if you suicide, you should lose. As that's stating defeat, it shouldn't be a draw. :/

We may have some draw in comboxing (like 100 radium planet) if we consider a com die due to the other com's explosion is lose. But I don't think we can see this often in normal match.

It's not common, but it does happen.

En...I think we determine the win and lose is on the moment when one of the commander dead(the red one in the video), so precisely the yellow still alive before the explosion arrive him(less than 1 second probably). Then only in that time he is win, but he is still win for a moment.

Well, I think we can have draw for some certain kind of match in PA, but not all. Because it can be hard to say sometime, like one is win but his planet will be smashed 15 sec latter and he may not be able to leave the planet in time...etc