PA should introduce restrictions to prevent server lag due to "high load"

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by frobb, September 3, 2014.

  1. frobb

    frobb New Member

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    PA should introduce some kind of "smart" restriction/throtteling <doesn't matter what> to provide a better user experience for large games (10 player FFA, multiple planets, ...).

    Reason:
    The game sim speed often reaches fun==zero within 30 minutes and the people are complaining about the game. If the PA server is not able to handle all kind of stuff (the user can do) the experience is horrible.

    PA should not stick with "unlimit" units, 10 players, 10 (?) planets, .... if PA is (currently) no able to provide a smooth experience with these settings.

    In other games it is possible to say "only fast CPU player" or whatever - PA has a hard limit on the server with a fixed CPU - so it should introduce restrictions to match their server CPUs.
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  2. aevs

    aevs Post Master General

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  3. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    The reasons are actually a bit more complex. Basically currently a server machine actually runs like 8 games, so once we have our own servers we can make a server that is dedicated to one single game, increasing performance.
    Then there also currently seems to be a bug in that area that makes it much worse: https://forums.uberent.com/threads/release-build-71459.63384/page-6#post-990186

    EDIT:
    ninja'd
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  4. frobb

    frobb New Member

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    Thank you for the informations, so I wait for the next patch and necro this thread if necessary ;)
  5. frobb

    frobb New Member

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    First game on 71544 4 player FFA already server lag after 10 min, server crash (? no reconnect possible) after 15 ...
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  6. damnhippie

    damnhippie Active Member

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    In its current state of constant freezing, I would prefer to have a set unit cap to stop this problem. However I would obviously be happier if we could keep our huge scale battles with no freezing, crashing or slowdowns.
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  7. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    That won't help if there actually is a bug in the backend that [random numbers] causes 100 games to be run on a single server[/random numbers]
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  8. frobb

    frobb New Member

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    Right, there is no hint in the release notes that this kind of problem is fixed in the latest 71544 build from today - so again, waiting for the next patch ...
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  9. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    I would guess that actually may a backend issue that can be fixed at any time without a visible patch for us.
  10. klovian

    klovian Member

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    Sure hope so!

    Just tried playing a game.

    6 player FFA, within the first minute 1 freeze restart.

    Then the game completely froze at minute 7.


    Exited PA.
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  11. ace63

    ace63 Post Master General

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    Now that explains why my AI game yesterday got down to 0.2 sim fps even though there was no excessive unit count.
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    PA is sticking with unlimited units, the game in the devs point of view is made for massive battles and annihilation. its kinda hard do annihilate without a ton of units
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    monkeyulize Active Member

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    Same here, glad it's due to a known bug on the backend rather then something else.
  14. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    As Cola has said multiple times, this is just due to a bug where more than 8 servers are being hosted per server computer.
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  15. EdWood

    EdWood Active Member

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    So too many games on one server... thx that explains the ups and downs... :)
  16. planktum

    planktum Post Master General

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    We shouldn't have to host our own servers in order to get decent performance.
  17. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    Read about the bug, even Uber servers are supposed to be faster for "normal" settings ;)
    Our own servers are especially interesting for stupid big games. Like 40 players+
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    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    100+ ;)
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