The Latest American Gun Thing

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by Geers, August 27, 2014.

  1. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    Here's my opinion of gun ownership laws:
    If you want to own a pistol for self-defense, that's perfectly fine.
    However, you do not need more than one pistol, and you most assuredly don't need a f*cking assault rifle.
  2. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    This, this right here.
  3. operatingdeck881572

    operatingdeck881572 Active Member

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    when the aliens come you'll regret saying that
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  4. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    >implying guns would be able to fight highly advanced alien weaponry. :p
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  5. websterx01

    websterx01 Post Master General

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    I have to admit, after watching the video, I'm not sure who "trained" the instructor, but that guy didn't know anything. I've fired pistols and small guns of the sort, and how she was holding the gun, it was clear she couldn't handle the recoil. Both arms bent, relaxed, no. No structure to resist the recoil.

    Also, was this her first time? Why would you give somebody with so little experience the fully automatic version? Yea, a 9-year-old could handle it, but if they were experienced and properly taught.

    What a shame, losing a life due to poor instruction and judgement.
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  6. poiuasd

    poiuasd Well-Known Member

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    Why?
  7. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    What, "why"?

    You mean to tell me that you see logic in owning an AK 47, an M4, or a Barrett M82?
    Well, I guess there is a little logic to it if you're planning a coup in South America, but chances are, you're not.

    If you're a collector, don't load them. If you're a hunter, use a use a medium-caliber sniper rifle like a sane person; you don't need a fifty cal to kill a deer. And if you want to use them as toys (which they aren't) then go to a firing range.

    Not to mention the only reason I ever see for pro-gun ownership is for self-defense, and you can defend yourself perfectly fine with a .45 ACP.
    Well, okay there is the other reason of "muh constitution".

    Because you know, this isn't what the founding fathers meant.
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    THIS is what the founding fathers meant!
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  8. poiuasd

    poiuasd Well-Known Member

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    Well you said it yourself. It's a sport and a hobby.
    Also why would you limit someone to a single pistol?
  9. equinoxiswin

    equinoxiswin Active Member

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    One of my favorites.
    [​IMG]

    No I am not arguing about your rehashed arguments this time.
  10. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    But you don't need to own them. Doesn't it make more sense to rent a gun at the range instead of senselessly having an M4 in your house?

    And because you don't need more than one for protection.
    If you want a gun for self defense, you don't need more than one.
  11. equinoxiswin

    equinoxiswin Active Member

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    You don't need to live, either. See what happens when I sling necessity around like it's any of my business?
  12. equinoxiswin

    equinoxiswin Active Member

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    Assault rifles (U.S military definition, not the media buzzword) are already restricted under NFA legislation because they are machine guns.
  13. equinoxiswin

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  14. Raevn

    Raevn Moderator Alumni

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    That's just so ... wrong.

    False equivalence. Those aren't even remotely the same, and you know this. We are talking about weapons that kill tens of thousands a year. Why shouldn't you have to justify owning them?

    Do you classify an AR-15 as an assault rifle? It's legal in most of the US, even though it's basically an M16 without full auto. Given that full auto is not an effective way to use a gun anyway, that's not a disadvantage.

    You can use weasel words about definitions, but an AR-15 is just as dangerous as an M16. Probably moreso in inexperienced hands, since they wont waste ammo going automatic.
  15. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    You can own a semi-automatic M4 in most states. Dance around the whole "it's not TECHNICALLY an AR" all you like, it's still a highly dangerous piece of military-grade weaponry.

    And like I said, you can also own a fifty f*cking caliber sniper rifle in some states.
    Why? What the hell do you want a gun that fires bullets the size of your hand for? Are you going to grab it and carefully snipe some lowlife home invader from your homemade vantage point? (or, like I said, are you planning a freaking coup?)

    Do people even use those in firing ranges?!
    I'm actually genuinely curious on this. Do people actually use fifty cal weaponry in firing ranges?
  16. equinoxiswin

    equinoxiswin Active Member

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    I'm too lazy to pretend to argue. Let's just say I support all small arms being legalized.

    Blablablabla I stopped caring. Nothing's going to convince people that have no idea what they're arguing about.

    Some cool kids do shoot it and it's a fun novelty. People even own howitzers, why not?

    That's an SBR AR-15 whether you agree with the law or not.
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  17. poiuasd

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    A .22 pistol is as dangerous as any other firearm. You don't see rifle owners committing these crimes. It's the small caliber pistols that are the problem in that regard because they're easy and cheap to acquire.

    Just because a weapon is big and looks intimidating to people who know nothing about them doesn't mean that you're out there killing children with those things on a daily basis.
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  18. Taxman66

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    There's no such thing as gun control. The very act of regulating firearms requires you to give a very small minority, with extra powers, guns to use almost indiscriminately in order to intimidate, and coerce people into handing over their guns. Sorry, but you're more likely to be shot by a cop than in a mass shooting (3+ victims).

    All gun control is, is an emotional reaction to something that gets broadcast every few months, yet over 75 people die every day in the U.S due to gun violence. But guess what, do these gun-control-nuts actually care about reducing this number? All they give a **** about is "oh no assault weapons they're black and scary". They don't even think handguns should be banned, yet they are involved in 80%+ of gun homicides.

    Sorry, but the facts and statistics support so-called "gun nuts", which often means white people (usually living in a rural area, he also must be a racist, a Confederate and anything else that is politically incorrect), never minorities. Most gun crime is created by the state. These gun homicides in the U.S mainly occur in urban environments, and sadly often occur in poorer minority communities (thanks war on drugs...). Most of them don't friggen occur by the aforementioned white, trailer-trash or "gun nut".

    The OP is pretty sad but it's the result of a few stupid individuals. The girl 1. should not be using a gun she cannot physically handle. 2. She's not using a correct stance 3. She's not holding it properly and securing. It's pretty damn obvious that this **** happens when you don't teach kids about gun safety. I would also assume that this instructor didn't teach the girl that there's a big tendency to hold the trigger when you can't handle the recoil.
  19. equinoxiswin

    equinoxiswin Active Member

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    I'll protect the rights of people to own stupid **** like unwieldy weaponry even if I think it's stupid. That's just how Americanism works. There's no need to spew **** about what a person actually needs in life.
  20. tehtrekd

    tehtrekd Post Master General

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    Howitzers?
    Waitwaitwaitwaitwaitwaitwait.
    The U.S. bans fully automatic assault rifles... but lets citizens own artillery cannons?
    That's... strange.
    That's like banning knives but letting people own Tomahawk Missiles.

    Like. What the hell?

    Anyway, why not.
    I just don't see it as logical. I don't see a reasonable reason to own a gun for any purpose other than self defense, and I don't see any sensible reason to own anything more than a .45 ACP.

    And you posting those pictures that I can only hope you just found online for the sole purpose of posting them here doesn't provide a sensible reason.

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