What defines thread hostility? (Able commander controversy aside)

And I thought Commander's sharing rigs was bad...

Raven lives on Dagobah. Confirmed.

Hug now? And kisses? Make up 6 maybe? and all that good stuff. ahhhhh hostility owns
hostility, **** yeah
hostility, kill the matafaking wooorld

I agree with the spirit of the op and all of sxx post afterwards. Was planning on making a similar thread to this when the tournament had finished. If the forum is not a place of free speech (within reason obviously) people will find themselves going to other forums. Locking and deleting posts because you don't like them or have seen it before has been covered already by garat.

Joining this thread late, but that kind of loosely veiled threat to Brian seems out of line. More something a big name publisher would do rather that a kick-started developer. Why not just show how the 2 commander models differ (even if only a little) and make it clear that if you pay $15 you are giving to a charity?

You make a good post, but if some of the developers were honest and very comprehensive in answering this question the fallout would be huge

This thread

They don't; that's the issue. It's just a re-texture; no more and no less.

They are making a supposedly Kickstarter limited edition Commander model available to anyone and everyone, thus devaluing the backer exclusive content.

Good cause or not, that is precisely what's happened.

I don't have an issue with a re-texture, so long as it is reasonably priced.

Define "reasonably priced".

Id pay £2 for a reasonably good re-skin when the mood takes me.

But of course cheaper for me is better, so paying a full £10 for a commander with different colour lights is right out.

Not that it matters what I think of it, it's up to uber to not make a profit on these things to get the message.

Does that take into account the devaluing of the "limited edition" Progenitor?

You mean the one we got for free for helping the kickstarter a certain amount?

Im not going to worry about swag, personally.

For free? You have a strange definition of "free" when the difference between a game with an Progenitor Commander and a game with no Progenitor Commander was an increase in $35 to your pledge (taking into account early-bird specials).

Depends what you see kickstarter for.

I saw it as a chance to fund a game I want to see completed, with the loot being something to encourage donation.

I didn't kickstart to buy commanders, I kickstarted to get the game to be developed.


It's likely that people might have only played a particular amount to get new commanders, but if it was just to get them, rather then to further support the game....well then they are kinda silly and have wasted their money when the current commanders up for sale are much cheaper.

Im not going to shed a tear over a unit skin that I got for free when backing a kickstarter project, especially considering that the bonuses for paying a certain amount aren't supposed to be the point.

I'm just saying I would have prefered Uber not devalue something that's supposed to be limited edition.

It makes me trust them less as a business entity.

That's cool, Im not saying I am correct here, you may well have the more correct opinion.

Retexturing/Revamping a less exclusive Commander might have created less of a headache while also saving on work hours.

The choice made to use that particular model as the basis strikes me as a poor one.

Supporting charity is a good thing (I run a company developing specialist disability equipment, you really won't get any argument from me on helping a good cause). I'm certain no one in the community would think about criticizing Uber for that.

That being said, something that is supposed to be exclusive really should be, and I can certainly understand why quite a few people are uneasy about this. This really leaves me feeling pretty de-valued as a customer and early supporter, and I'll hope you'll recognise I'm almost always very supportive of the studio on here when others aren't.

LAAAAW!

Ok so here's my two cents (not that I know what a cent looks like, being English):

If I'd bought a Backer's package for $200, I would be slightly irritated that my exclusive Commander was now somewhat less exclusive.
That said, it's still exclusive. I can still display my early backing of the game.
I have no problem with re-skins in themselves and I think 'Able' looks beautiful.

As somebody else said a few pages back, anything Uber can do at this point to make the two skins even more different would probably cool off some heads. Just so, you know, I could still easily and clearly show off if I had a Progenitor Commander.

As I said above, I think revamping a less exclusive Commander would have dodged all this, but hey, it's an issue that's bound to come up eventually with anything exclusive.

One side note:

Armalisk:


'Sacrificial Lamb':


I am not having a go at Uber here - as I said I'm just passing through and trying to help avoid further community ****-fits.
I am genuinely concerned about what 'Exclusivity' means and who you might annoy in future - Nordic Games? - If you guys begin selling reskins more widely.

Sorry I'm posting this here, I'm kinda late to the party and didn't want to create a thread.