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I spend four hours editing json files so that firing is changed to fired and anim trees end in anim_tree as you broke every server mod out there by doing these things 'cause you're just like YOLO.

Trophy and I then discover that the mod isn't working. Trophy removes the units from the unitlist.json and finds that everything works fine. We add the base commander file. So far so good. We add a commander. Crash. What do we find after a few hours of experimentation?

In the old build, imperial_base got its papa from imperial_delta, and tank_base got its papa from tank_aeson. Raptor_base got its papa from raptor_base, however, and likewise quad_base got its papa from quad_base. In this build uber changed this randomly so that raptor_base inherited data from raptor_nemicus and quad_base inherited its papa from quad_osiris. This is all well and good, but the papas the old files were referring to were renamed and moved so the game was crashing because of it. This change wasn't documented anywhere.

If you want to do a little housecleaning, that's fine.

But if you're going to do housecleaning,

DO IT BEFORE YOU RELEASE SERVER MODS AND MAKE MODDERS SPEND 6+ HOURS FIGURING OUT WHAT YOU BROKE!

Thanks, Stuart98.

Now you see, this is why I'm waiting to install mods until 1.0 is out.

What you describe comes from modding for a WIP game unfortunately.

Could not have explained it better.

A polite request would probably be better received, they are not trying to annoy you. Such detailed notes would presumably take them time to complete, and be read by very few. They are probably busy so understandable that they haven't released such.

That said, mods are great, keep up the good work. I spent more time making starcraft mods than actually playing, and most of the time playing on mods, so may well end up joining in with my own special brand of bug-ridden contributions once we're post release.

*Shrugs. Rolls eyes. Moves on*
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This is why, for our move to the new version, we're renaming all the files.


Well, the ones that are irritating anyway.

I can sympathise with the pain, but we did point out this change in the notes on the build thread

A nicer solution of course would be to allow hooking of blueprints instead of having to shadow the entire file.

You actually didn't list the name changes. The other two issues were listed, thanks for that.

This is really a joke thread that goes along with Trophy's.

Ah. You're quite right. I tend to focus more on things that will impact players, then any major modding changes. I wasn't thinking that the renamed commanders would cause issues too . Definitely something to focus on more, as we can expect more modding-related changes as the game becomes more complete.

Welcome to the joy that is PA Modding while it's in beta

I converted @brianpurkiss, I can convert anybody.

Thread title made me imagine you doing this.

I do like the update more than the original post

Please do smack me, my primary issue is time rather than anything else unfortunately. I love modding in general, I used to be a part of a modding team making a stargate mod for Nexus the jupiter incident.

The other reason I keep myself mod-free here is to keep a clear head and provide Uber a viewpoint in my opinions that is underrepresented: the lame-o player's. So I'm trying to concentrate on helping the default experience become as noob-friendly as possible.

yea. I see what you mean.

Keep in mind most of these mods are only ever hotfixes.

I mean :
efficiency count in the eco bar? thank you modding.
in-game time? thank you modding.
keybinds? thank you modding.
new icons? thank you modding.
commander autoselect? thank you modding.
seek in the chronocam? thank you modding.
more details in observer mode? thank you modding.
no more blackscreens? more responsive UI? ect.. ect... ect..

I suspect the skybox and lobby renamer will be next in line.

If you only just count the UI mods then you're only doing yourself a favor and providing yourself with a better
experience that'll likely come sooner or later. I see it as a question of comfort and settling in.

Here are some mods I suggest for you:

• system sharing
• nuke manager
• auto factory
• pips on planet list
• multiple pips
• alerts manager

• hotbuild's still worth it because it's way better than Uber's hotkey setup.

Fixed that for ya

My reason for making and using mods is actually very similar to why you don't. I like to think of mods as a way to show the devs which missing features we think are the most important and suggest how we would like to see them implemented. Something like System Sharing obviously shouldn't be a mod because at this point tournaments can't even be run without it. My mod is pretty basic but it does show the level of integration with the game that we want it to have when Uber finally does work on their own version of it.

If I've got a patch and you don't want to figure out how to run it, ping me and we'll work out source control or at least file transfer to run it for you.

I also highly recommend maintaining a source control mirror of the game's text files so you can review diffs when you're having trouble. A JSON formatter helps considerably, but that's another technical barrier.

Replacing strings by hand during 4h is close to madness

The inheritance change is a bit more tricky to figure out without maintaining your own repository and tracking every changes made by Uber (or a better error logging ...?)

Outta the way pleb. Let the God of Gifs do his work:

What I should have said is "I don't even".