Neutrino: How are the PA sales?

I know you can't (or won't) tell the real numbers but are the number of sales what you expected? Is it less or more then you expected? If applicable, is an expansion (in any form) viable and to be expected? Do you feel that the number of sales are enough to rekindle the RTS genre, will investors be interested again to invest is these kinds of games?

Thanks in advance for answering

Look at the kickstarter funding its waaay above of all the goals it was allready a win for them and since then lots of people bought it and after release even more will buy it.

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Huh where on earth did you get that information, that is just compleet nonsence.

I'd love to know the answer to this, too - from a fan's perspective, looking to bolster my hopes that it's becoming a success... but I don't think Uber's going to put it out there. (I wouldn't, if I were them).

They're being really swell about having open communication with the community about development - but when it comes to business stuff, I think they're right to draw a line.

As soon as neutrino puts a number out there, it's inevitable that we're going to do some math, and when we come up with an estimate of how much money Uber is/has made, we'll start making comments like carlorizzante's above.

Check their last goal they set and check how much people founded

Source or it didn't happen.

At every steam sale it was on page 1 of top sellers. So it is going pretty wel, especially since it is supposed tot be a gaming niche

Top sellers means nothing imo. The numbers did rise a lot, but it is counted in hundreds, not in thousands. This is just steam stats, there is of course a lot of standalone clients that are not shown in this.

But you can see that the newcomers abandon the game very quickly.

http://steamcharts.com/app/233250#1m

Which in this stage is "good". I think it is better to have a good quality community during the developement, that helps to shape the game and not quantity. Quantity will come once the game is released anyway and then the community will be spoiled No need for that now!

Sorry guys.

I have been asked to remove my comment, since it gathered data from a section where not everyone is allowed.

this is probably confidential, guys.

Yeah, with the amount of information Uber shares with us I can see how it is easy to make the mistake in thinking that we should have access to everything. We are a part of this game's development, but not a part of the company. I'm very curious about this too so I don't blame people for wanting to know, but I really don't think Uber has any obligation to release anything related to money to the community.

I'm guessing whatever the amount is it's not enough to satisfy the higher ups. Otherwise they wouldn't prioritize flashy gimmicks over function and features. It doesn't matter what the numbers are, it matters how Uber handles it either way.

There are other sections we aren't allowed in? :O

'The higher ups' are @neutrino and @o - I'm being entirely earnest when I say that if you've got a problem with how they're handling things, send them a PM!

Well.. as a fan of this series I am curious what the odds are other companies will start making a game in this genre. Also as a kickstarter I am curious what Uberent thinks about the whole PA venture. Are they satisfied? Will they do it again? Personally I hope they made more money then was expected as they deserve every penny for the stuff they already put in place for us

All im gonna say is the game is doing well, common sense will tell you that.

If the game wasnt selling well or there was a shortage of funds it wouldnt be "release when its finished".

As far as how the sells are going, thats none of our business really, and @neutrino in the doom and gloom thread
long ago said he would not discuss numbers with us. So i doubt youll get an answer.

SteamGraph - Users:
http://steamgraph.net/index.php?action=graph&appid=221100q252490q4000q233250

Top Sellers:
http://tools.garry.tv/steamchart/?show=221100,252490,211820,251570,4000,233250&range=1

The tracking stopped though, UBER restricted the access to Steams infos, I guess.

I'm genuinely curious as to what you define as "flashy gimmicks". Also, I agree that we shouldn't really know what the financial situation is at Uber. One day, I would like them to be able to say "PA did okay, so were happy with it" at least!
I AM curious as to whether, if they knew what they knew now, they would have still chosen Kickstarter 2 years ago.

I'm more interested in what they think of the number of users, honestly. From my experience trying to get friends to play PA, they start out having no clue what to do, get frustrated and then decide they'll try again some other time (which they still haven't done). That's a really big problem in my opinion, because those people are unhappy and probably won't pick the game up any time soon because of the learning curve. Fewer players, less advertising through word of mouth, etc. are the results.

I think PA needs a proper tutorial that goes over managing an economy, controls, basic strategy and key bindings in order to engage new players rather than frustrate them.