Destiny is promoting PA!

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by lilbthebasedlord, November 13, 2013.

  1. kryovow

    kryovow Well-Known Member

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    maybe he thinks, if he plays 10 FFA the chance that one single enemy is a good player is higher. Which is currently right xD in a FFA with random players your chances of getting a skilled opponent is higher 1 out of 10 is good :D

    but in the 5 min i watched the other day he also talked mostly bs xD
  2. lilbthebasedlord

    lilbthebasedlord Active Member

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  3. acer1791

    acer1791 New Member

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    What? He says in a FFA the chance is higher that somebody uses a punishing opening against his greedy ones.
    If there are 3 players next to you the chances are high that one of them wil use some kind of rush and then you see how your greedy opening stands against this, i think that is a pretty logic thought there.
  4. Quitch

    Quitch Post Master General

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    I think he's dead wrong, people don't go aggressive in FFAs, they tend to play more cautiously to avoid attracting attention. You go all-in or you don't attack at all because getting locked in battle with someone will screw you if someone else attacks you too.
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  5. Arachnis

    Arachnis Well-Known Member

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    Sorry, but I disagree. I'm always aggressive in FFA, and I'm doing fairly well with it. Destroying one of my three opponents will give me a huge advantage over the other two. Just sitting back and not attracting attention is wrong on so many levels. It's a strategy based on hope, the hope that other people won't attack you if you don't attack them.
    And strategies based on hope are by default bad strategies.
  6. GoogleFrog

    GoogleFrog Active Member

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    When you raid your opponent in 1v1 you will lose some units. This is ok as long as you cause your opponent to suffer greater losses.

    When you raid someone in FFA you will lose some units and the person you raided will suffer losses. You are both in worse positions compared to everyone else.
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  7. Arachnis

    Arachnis Well-Known Member

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    It's not always that simple. If you kill someone in FFA, and take their mex-spots, then it's definitely worth it.
    All I'm saying is, that he's right. If you acknowlegde that people will get better over time, then in theory they will tend more to openings that will rush you and disrupt your tech-opening. So after some time people will be more aware of rushes and be more prepared for it. And again some time after that people will be able to do tech-openings again, but with a significant delay.
    And so on. This is just how metagames change over time.
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  8. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    You have to consider that destiny played very huge planets. In most of them there were often huge areas that were just empty. Most players had no need to attack anyone to expand.
  9. liquius

    liquius Well-Known Member

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    However you are very venerable to attack for a while after attacking and expanding. You can put a lot of effort into killing someone and then another player can claim the plunder.

    FFA can go two ways (assuming balanced spawns and competent players). The first way is that someone wipes out a player, expands to that area and then continues on an unstoppable path to victory. The second way is that someone wipes out a player, a near by player then attacks, killing the victor and claims both areas. They then go on to win the game.
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  10. Clopse

    Clopse Post Master General

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    ffa is always a horrible game to play. Nature tells us to go for the strongest player. I am amazed at the amount of ffas in pa today. More than likely becasue people dont like the 1v1 pressure and the team gameplay is still for some reason retarded. I would have imagined this to be an easy fix, maybe I'm wrong. Was ffa popular with the supcom games? I know only newer player would consider playing ffa in ta.
  11. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    The problem with FFA games in SupCom2 was that once you went to war with one player, another one would roll on in and decimate you.

    It usually ended with the one player who didn't fight turtling until experimental and nukes, making the initial fighters utterly screwed.

    That, or there end up being 3 players left in a stale mate, if you attack, you lose, if you are being attacked, you lose.
  12. bobucles

    bobucles Post Master General

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    That's not a problem, that's half the fun of playing FFA. Sometimes things work in your favor, sometimes they don't. Try doing some diplomacy with the other players, or bring in friends on a secret alliance. It's all in good fun.
  13. Arachnis

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    The reason he's saying that is because, like colin already mentioned, the planets are really big, and it needs some time in a 1v1 to even get into a confrontation with the other player. You can't compare that to Starcraft 2 which is basically built for 1v1s. Where everything beginning from the maps all the way to unit balance is designed around those.

    Give him some time to learn the game, and let him talk what he wants. He'll have time to correct it later.

    But as far as I see it, FFAs are the best way to improve your skill at the moment.

    Ofc I'm not saying that you shouldn't scout before attacking somebody.
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  14. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Well I only really play with friends, and really....it always ends up the same, so matter what happens.

    Not that it isn't fun, its just annoying when the player that doesn't do anything should get reward.

    But thats why I prefer switching off the RP stations, so you have to fight for tech.
  15. stormingkiwi

    stormingkiwi Post Master General

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    The solution to that is to play on a smaller planet, not add more players.
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  16. Arachnis

    Arachnis Well-Known Member

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    Why, when you can do both? :p
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  17. Terrasque

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    Currently watching the game at http://www.twitch.tv/destiny/b/482373583 - Starts around 2 hours in... He still techs all the way to orbital (and nukes) without seeing any enemies and with hardly any fighting units :confused:
  18. stormingkiwi

    stormingkiwi Post Master General

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    Can someone please kill him with dox and air scout spam?
  19. Terrasque

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    Okay, he did eventually get a few airplanes up. Still, he got roflstomped after orbital was up, so I feel a bit better :)
  20. Arachnis

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    So I recorded one game which was really epic. Does anyone know where I can upload it for free and with good quality?

    It's without commentating and an hour long, so it's only for those who're really interested.
    It's a 1v2v2, me vs 2 teams with 2 commanders each. I won't say who won, but let's just say it's epic.

    Sorry to use this thread for this question, but I didn't want to create a new one just for this.

    Edit: Forget it, just found a suitable website.
    Last edited: November 30, 2013

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