Dedicated Server Download Link?

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat PC Dedicated Server Discussion' started by GossamerSolid, January 12, 2011.

  1. GossamerSolid

    GossamerSolid New Member

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    I see that the patch from today says "decoupled Dedicated Server from Steam client".

    So where can I download the Server Binaries? I don't want to upload the whole game to my server box via FTP.
  2. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    The dedicated server is included in main executable - just run it with the proper command line.
  3. GossamerSolid

    GossamerSolid New Member

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    Yes, I'm well aware on how to use dedicated servers with the unreal engine. I'm asking for a download link so I can RDP into my server and download it directly.

    I'm not installing steam on my server and I do not want to upload the entire game to my server.
  4. dustoff

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    Right now the ONLY way to get the game is VIA steam as its not in hldsupdatetool yet .
  5. GossamerSolid

    GossamerSolid New Member

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    It didn't have to be on the hldsupdatetool. Other devs have done something as simple as making a zip file with the required files for running the server.

    @Devs: You won't see many servers up until you make setting up a server less of a hassle.
  6. Ekanaut

    Ekanaut Uber Alumni

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    We'll let you know when it's less of a hassle.
  7. JohnnyConfidence

    JohnnyConfidence New Member

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    I didn't find it a hassle to install steam on my server. Worked really well. Would a prefer a stand alone downloader? Probably, but until then it did the job it needed to do. No errors or problems, and steam itself is pretty small foot print.
  8. Savage

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    True.....but that's not exactly sustainable in the long run - especially if the game becomes a hit and has more players than servers. Server operators need to be able to host multiple servers on one box - using a stand alone client - AND be able to patch those servers easily. The hldsupdatetool is pretty much the best patching system out there for servers at the moment, and makes any "patch day" go much, much faster.

    Couple that with being able to integrate it with TCAdmin (which probably 80-90% of server operators use to administer their servers) and it's a win-win. Keep in mind that server operators defray a considerable amount of support costs for the game company (hosting decent server ain't cheap). Hell, consider how much companies like Valve save by having tens of thousands of independent server operators hosting their games as opposed to having to pay for all the hardware necessary to host it themselves. ;-)
  9. JohnnyConfidence

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    That makes sense. I'm approaching as a single server hobby operator not a reseller or manager of services for others. Different end goals. I would love it was available via HLDS however, that would be very cool indeed.
  10. GossamerSolid

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    it's also the fact that I don't want steam on my server. I have very little installed on the server to keep resource usage down to a minimum.

    Plus navigating through steam over RDP is really laggy.
  11. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    Have you considered third party Steam clients?
  12. GossamerSolid

    GossamerSolid New Member

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    Have you considered that it's illegal. I'm in the programming profession and I'd rather be legal and support my own line of work.
  13. BulletMagnet

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    Having them isn't illegal... well it is as illegal as having a Bit Torrent client installed.

    What you do with the software determines it's illegality. Piracy is illegal. At worst, what you could be doing is against the T&C of Steam.
  14. GossamerSolid

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    Yes they are. Steam is not an open source application. These people directly reverse engineered Steam in order to build this third party steam apps.
  15. SALT

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    Reverse engineering Steam is definitely illegal. A BitTorrent client isn't somebody else's proprietary software that has been changed without permission to benefit yourself; its not even close to a fair comparison.
  16. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    Quote me a section in the legislature as proof.
  17. grimbar

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    Section E, Stream Subscriber Agreement

    E. Restrictions.

    Except as otherwise permitted under Section 2(C) with regard to the SDK, you may not, in whole or in part, copy, photocopy, reproduce, translate, reverse engineer, derive source code, modify, disassemble, decompile, create derivative works based on, or remove any proprietary notices or labels from the Software or any software accessed via Steam without the prior consent, in writing, of Valve.
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    Basically, coder pro is saying he's not willing to put his career and profession on the line just to use a reverse engineered copy of steam to then create officially licensed software that benefits another company.

    Given that a reverse engineered copy is presumably only legal to have if you have licensed it for that purpose, the risk vs reward is high for the former given that a license has not been legally acquired regardless of it's intended use. Having software such as you're describing is also prohibited, just as owning MP3's and other proprietary multimedia which haven't been licensed to you through some form of payment or 'shareware or GNU' type of license.
  20. GossamerSolid

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    Bingo.

    Also, if a programmer is caught reverse engineering or pirating, you will NOT be able to find a job anywhere as word travels fast. I'd be combating my own profession...


    Anyways back to the original topic. If a dev can tell me which files I can exclude from the game and still have a functional server, I will upload the folder on to my box and distribute the server files to those who need them.

    If I cannot reduce the file size/make the server distro legal (aka not giving out the full game to people) then I won't do this of course.

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