PA crashes when starting game, please help!

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  1. maanroof

    maanroof New Member

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    I've updated my drivers and installed the game in the standard folder, what coul be wrong?

    9 out of 10 times I start the game, when I have to choose a location for my commander the screen remains black for a minute or so and then windows terminates the program. Someimes though I have been able to play for a couple of minutes.

    Any help would be much appreciated.

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  2. SXX

    SXX Post Master General

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    It's most likely happen due to 32-bit OS memory limit of 2GB. Game usually need much more than than 2GB, so you should try to use smaller planets.

    You can also bypass this problem using workaround you can find in this thread:
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/crashing-on-32-bit-windows-heres-a-guide-to-help.51990/

    But best solution is upgrade to 64-bit OS.
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  3. zaxanrazor

    zaxanrazor New Member

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    Having the same problem;

    2600K @ 4.4Ghz
    GTX 770
    8GB DDR 3
    128GB SSD (agility 3)
    Windows 8.1

    Didn't do this 3 weeks ago, then I took a break, now I can't start a game. Is it a Windows 8.1 issue, or the latest Nvidia drivers? They seemed to cause problems in a few games.

    Games usually need much more than 2GB of RAM? What games? That's not really true. The system in total when a game is running might need 3.5 - 4, but not a game by itself. I can only think of Skyrim with a lot of mods installed that would take up anywhere near that much by itself.

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  4. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

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    Try deleting the game and re-downloading it, it seems to fix some issues
    there maybe some files left from the older build interfering.

    if this fails let me know :)
  5. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

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    Also BattleFeild 3 uses more than 4gb ram whenever its available.
    i have seen other games with high ram usage too!
  6. zaxanrazor

    zaxanrazor New Member

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    Think we're getting a bit off topic here, but the most I've seen BF4 using on mine is 1.8 GB..

    Anyway, uninstalling now.
  7. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

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    ha , minecraft and a server on 1 pc uses over 8gb ram :p
    how simple is minecraft . lol
  8. SXX

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    I was talking exactly about PA. For normal 3-5 planets gameplay it's might use 4-5GB of RAM depends on many factors, but 8GB of RAM should be enough for playing.

    But if you want PA can use eve 12, 16 or 32GB of RAM in system editor. There also some planets that currently use much more RAM than others.
  9. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

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    also , at this current point in beta i think each model for units is an individual model , soon it will be handled by instancing (if i remember right from another thread neutrino commented in).
    this will greatly reduce memory usage on massive armys.
    Procedural generation can also chew up ram in its generating process, after it can be ok, this will most probably lower when features stop going in and optimizations are started.
  10. zaxanrazor

    zaxanrazor New Member

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    Interesting, the optimisations you have to make to get a game suitable for a wide range of specifications.

    After an uninstall and reinstall, the game launches and I can play just fine. Thanks.
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  11. maxpowerz

    maxpowerz Post Master General

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    Awesome :)
  12. maanroof

    maanroof New Member

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    Thanks for your answer. I tried smaller planets, this didn't work. Now I've installed Ubuntu 64 bit, and I'm getting the following error:

    [00:02:31.371] INFO Log file /home/jeroen/.local/Uber Entertainment/Planetary Annihilation/log/PA-00-02-31.371.txt opened
    [00:02:31.371] INFO Loaded 0 mods
    [00:02:31.636] INFO GL_VENDOR: ATI Technologies Inc.
    [00:02:31.636] INFO GL_RENDERER: ATI Radeon HD 5800 Series
    [00:02:31.636] INFO GL_VERSION: 4.2.12217 Compatibility Profile Context 12.104
    [00:02:31.636] INFO GL_SHADING_LANGUAGE_VERSION: 4.20
    [00:02:31.636] INFO Gamma correct pipeline enabled.
    [00:02:34.086] INFO Configure, 1280 by 720
    [00:02:34.087] INFO build version 56310
    [00:02:34.087] INFO Coherent content root: "coui://ui/"
    [00:02:34.087] INFO Coherent host dir: "/home/jeroen/Downloads/PA/host"
    [00:02:34.087] INFO Coherent local store: "/home/jeroen/.local/Uber Entertainment/Planetary Annihilation/localstore"
    [2266:2266:ERROR:resource_bundle.cc(528)] Failed to load /home/jeroen/Downloads/PA/host/ui_resources_100_percent.pak
    Some features may not be available.
    [00:02:38.010] ERROR multiple models in spec for Air Factory have nav structures, this is unexpected.
    [00:02:38.343] ERROR multiple models in spec for Advanced Air Factory have nav structures, this is unexpected.
    [00:02:38.862] ERROR /pa/units/air/bomber_torpedo/bomber_torpedo.papa: open failed
    [00:02:42.583] INFO {{FMOD}} fmod buffer size 5
    [00:02:42.901] INFO Setting graphics to high
    2258 23:02:42.916428 W | PID: 2260 | 2260 23:02:36.607584 [2260:2260:ERROR:resource_bundle.cc(528)] Failed to load /home/jeroen/Downloads/PA/host/ui_resources_100_percent.pak
    Some features may not be available.
    2258 23:02:42.916572 W | PID: 2260 | 2281 23:02:41.508442 [2260:2281:WARNING:proxy_service.cc(888)] PAC support disabled because there is no system implementation
    [00:02:42.939] INFO SystemReady
    [2294:2294:INFO:renderer_main.cc(215)] Running without renderer sandbox
    [2296:2296:INFO:renderer_main.cc(215)] Running without renderer sandbox
    [2295:2295:INFO:renderer_main.cc(215)] Running without renderer sandbox
    2258 23:02:44.502973 W | PID: 2260 | 2260 23:02:44.499776 [2260:2260:ERROR:(0)] Failed to load /home/jeroen/Downloads/PA/host/ui_resources_100_percent.pak
    Some features may not be available.
    XIO: fatal IO error 11 (Resource temporarily unavailable) on X server ":0"
    after 72 requests (72 known processed) with 0 events remaining.
  13. SXX

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    Unfortunately currently PA is unplayable with AMD proprietary drivers on Linux due to driver bugs: PA#2343

    If you advanced user you might try to use open source drivers. Check this topic for mode details:
    https://forums.uberent.com/threads/black-screen-ubuntu-13-04.52558/
    I'm personally playing under Linux with open drivers and PA work nicely.

    Though it's can be tricky to use if you're new to Linux. :(
  14. rabbit9000

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    Same problem here.

    Currently reinstalling on the off chance but here is a DXDIAG.

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  15. maxpowerz

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    can you post the pa log file too .
    C:\Users\"YourUserName"\AppData\Local\Uber Entertainment\Planetary Annihilation\log\PA-00-00-00.000.txt
    "Click sort by date so the most recent one is at the top, And post that one here."

    also first delete all the log file then run the game once until it crashes ,
    this will leave just one log file in the directory if you currently have too many to work out which is most recent
  16. rabbit9000

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    Nuked the old folder.

    Looks like a reboot and reinstall has solved it for me though.

    Will post if anything comes up though
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  17. maxpowerz

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    Awesome

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