So with the Lore...

Discussion in 'Backers Lounge (Read-only)' started by untg, September 20, 2013.

  1. nanolathe

    nanolathe Post Master General

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    Smart move. The minute you reveal what something is, it completely loses its potential to be anything you could imagine... and it is diminished because of it...

    Like how Prometheus ruined the Space Jockey.

    Worst. Letdown. Ever.
  2. kmike13

    kmike13 Member

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    Massive apocalyptic jellyfish creatures?

    (Hopefully)
  3. mkrater

    mkrater Uber Alumni

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    Did someone say "apocalyptic jellyfish"?? ;)

    *A Chinese design to clean the air

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  4. kmike13

    kmike13 Member

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    Apocalyptic... jellyfish... So... Beautiful
    :D:D:D:D:D
  5. Nahtonaj

    Nahtonaj Member

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    Maintaining mystery is essential to story development. Good examples are Lord of the Rings and the Halo story. In Lord of the Rings Tolkien continuously refers to stories and the metaphorical "mountain" "over there" to incorporate depth in the world. He never tells too much of the "mountain" or story but keeps parts of it a mystery. If he revealed everything he would have to keep interest by creating more "mountains over there" past the mountains he just explained.
    You find this in Halo. You have the mysterious forerunners and Guilty Spark refers to Master Chief as Re-claimer. There is mystery in this and gives depth to the whole story. Only in Halo 4 do you finally learn much more about where the Halo rings came from and who built them and why those who built them are no more. And yet, mystery remains. Another alien race is introduced that is even further reaching than the Covenant since so much has been learned by now by the Covenant that they are old news. Therefore, the introduction of another "mountain over there" aka the revealing of a new alien race.
    In all likelihood, especially if the story has been created well, even as we learn more of the Progenitors it will only raise more and more questions and widen the scope of the questions. The name "Progenitor" has been put out. The main question is. Who are they? Answer: (for example) the original AI constructs built by the humans.
    Then this opens up many questions. Where have they been? Why are they enemies of the non-original AI robot faction? Where are they coming from? How did the lesser AI robots come about? And so on. You answer one, perhaps one of the lesser important ones such as where have they been? Answer: building their own metal worlds for themselves to live on after they had thought they had destroyed all of the non-originals. See? You climbed one mountain, but now you see another. Endless cycle.
  6. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    The Halo example would be good if it were true. The books revealed everything years ago, and it was still awesome when you knew why things were happening. Also, Halo 4 goes flagrantly against all the books and previous games.
  7. mkrater

    mkrater Uber Alumni

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    Well, Halo 4 was made by 343 Industries and not Bungie. Guess they felt they could do what they wanted with it :/
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  8. BulletMagnet

    BulletMagnet Post Master General

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    True. And it had the potential to the be best of all the Halo games. It started to touch on the moral questions of the Spartan program, and all the interesting concepts that relate to stealing kids at the age of six and doing 'speriments on them. Then it went, nope, we're just going to ignore all of that.
  9. iron420

    iron420 Well-Known Member

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    Wow... 1st and probably last time I heard someone mention D3 lore in a positive light. I'd rather read the twilight trilogy in a marathon session than be subjected to that again...
  10. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    It is more casual, and I feel Diablo could be more flexible with it.

    Some people overly delve into the world, and when it changes later they get upset. I do too if it affects something that matters.

    However, I am not against changes between two tales based roughly off the same thing. For instance, Slenderman lores, Silent Hill cannons, and even more casually all the changes between the Portal 1 cannon and Portal 2 cannon.

    It is slightly better than doing it like Zelda or Street Fighter, where you force that **** to make sense by breaking it up to hell.
  11. ringil86

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    Despite its simplicity (That team are all jerks we've been fighting for 6k years so go kill them all) I really enjoyed the lore of the original TA. I still dust it off and play it on occasion (thank you GoG). I really hope that the lore of PA will at least loosely tie in with TA. I'd like to find out how the ARM/CORE fared afterwards.

    ARM all the way, hell yeah.
  12. iron420

    iron420 Well-Known Member

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    I'm just gonna leave this here:

    [All caps Diablo 3 story by Sevis]

    VILLAGERS: OMG THE UNDEAD ARE RISING

    LEAH: ITS JUST UNCLE DECKARDS CRAZY STORIES

    *VILLAGER GETS HEAD EATEN OFF

    LEAH: AGAIN, JUST STORIES, I ASSURE YOU

    *NAKED OUT OF PLACE WITCH DOCTOR SHOWS UP

    LEAH: I TOTALLY TRUST YOU COMPLETELY, LETS GO FIND UNCLE DECKARD

    LEAH: LOOK THERE HE IS, FELL DOWN 100 FEET OR SO BUT HES FINE

    *EVERYONE GOES BACK TO TOWN

    DECKARD CAIN: RANDOM WITCH DOCTOR, GO KILL THE SKELETON KING, HE RESURRECTED JUST BECAUSE THIS ENTIRE ACT IS A DIABLO 1997 REFERENCE

    WITCH DOCTOR: K

    *WITCH DOCTOR KILLS SKELETON KING AND FINDS A NAKED BLACK MAN

    WITCH DOCTOR: YO DECKARD, I FOUND THIS NAKED BLACK DUDE

    DECKARD CAIN: K GO FIND HIS SWORD PIECES

    WITCH DOCTOR: Y????

    DECKARD CAIN: DUNNO LMAO, JUST A GUESS

    *MAGDA SHOWS UP

    MAGDA: I COME FROM WORLD OF WARCRAFT TO DESTROY U

    WITCH DOCTOR: K LMAO ALREADY GOT THE SWORD PIECES

    MAGDA: DAMN!!!!! ILL JUST GO STEAL THAT NAKED BLACK DUDE AND PROLONG THIS ACT FOR NO REASON

    *SHOOTS FIRE AT CAIN, STEALS BLACK MAN

    LEAH: STORIES KILLED MY UNCLE!!!!!!!!!

    WITCH DOCTOR: PRETTY SURE MAGDA DID, NUB

    *WITCH DOCTOR RUNS TO SAVE BLACK MAN

    WITCH DOCTOR: OMG THE BUTCHER, ANOTHER POINTLESS RESURRECTION OF A 1997 DIABLO CHARACTER WITH NO EXPLANATION

    BUTCHER: AH FRESH MEAT!!!!!!!!!!!

    *BUTCHER DIES, BLACK MAN SAVED

    TYRAEL: YO HERE I AM FOOL

    WITCH DOCTOR: WHY U BLACK NOW DOG?

    TYRAEL: TOKEN BLACK ANGEL LMAOOOOO

    *GOES TO ACT 2

    VILLAGERS: OMG THE PRINCE SENT ALL THE GUARDS AWAY

    WITCH DOCTOR: HE MUST BE BELIAL IN DISGUISE

    LEAH: NO, NO WAY, LET'S GO ON A POINTLESS QUEST TO DO A BUNCH OF CRAP DESPITE THE FACT THAT WE ALREADY KNOW WHAT'S GOING ON.

    ADRIA: HEY DAUGHTER SUP

    LEAH: OH HEY MOMS, JUST MORE STORIES TEEHEE

    ADRIA: WE MUST GET THE BLACK SOULSTONE USING THIS OLD HORADRIM DUDE THAT CREATED IT

    WITCH DOCTOR: K

    *WITCH DOCTOR RECOVERS THE SOULSTONE:

    WITCH DOCTOR: WAIT, HOW DID THE SOULS OF THE OTHER 5 DEMONS GET IN HERE ALREADY?

    ADRIA: DON'T WORRY BOUT IT DOG... CHRIS METZEN

    WITCH DOCTOR: GOT IT!

    BELIAL: I AM THE WORST LIAR EVERRRRRRRRRRRRRR

    WITCH DOCTOR: WE KNOW

    *CAPTURES SOUL

    *GOES TO ACT 3

    AZMODAN: YO DAWG, ATTACKING UR RAMPARTS

    WITCH DOCTOR: THANKS FOR THE LEAD BRO

    AZMODAN: HEY NP DAWG, ATTACKING UNDERNEATH NOW

    WITCH DOCTOR: HEY DUDE THANKS AGAIN, COULDNT HAVE DONE IT WITHOUT U

    AZMODAN: ANYTIME, HEY COME TO MY PLACE SO WE CAN SMOKE SOME BLOW

    *WITCH DOCTOR GOES TO THE HEART OF SIN

    WITCH DOCTOR: YO I BROUGHT THE WEED

    AZMODAN: SWEET DAWG, BEING A WARLORD IS TOUGH

    WITCH DOCTOR: JK LMAO, GOT UR SOUL

    *GOES BACK TO BASE

    WITCH DOCTOR: OMG LEAH IS THE PRIIIIIIME EVIL!!!!!!!!!!!

    ADRIA: YEA PLANNED THIS 20 YEARS AGO DOG

    WITCH DOCTOR: BUT, AGAIN, HOW DID U GET ALL THE SOULS IN HERE IF YOU JUST NOW GOT THE BLACK SOULSTONE?

    ADRIA: CHRIST METZEN

    WITCH DOCTOR: GOTCHA!!!!!!!!!

    *GOES TO ACT 4

    DIABLO: WELCOME TO MY ***** OF TEAR-OR!!!!!!!!! I AM THE PRIME EEEEVILLLLL

    WITCH DOCTOR: WHY DON'T YOU LOOK LIKE A COMBINATION OF ALL THE EVILS THEN???

    DIABLO: I DUNNO... ASK CHRIS METZEN

    WITCH DOCTOR: K

    DIABLO: CAN YOU TELL I'M A GIRL THIS GAME??? I CAN'T STOP TALKINGGGGGGG

    DIABLO: LOOK TYRAEL, UR OWN LIEUTENANT

    TYRAEL: WAIT, HOW DID IZUAL COME BACK?

    DIABLO: CHRIS METZEN MADE IT HAPPENNNNNNNNNN

    IZUAL: I AM BACK FOR ABSOLUTELY NO REASONNNNNNN

    *IZUAL DIES

    DIABLO: HE WAS USELESS ANYWAY, COEM KILL MEEEEE

    *WITCH DOCTOR ENTERS ***** OF TERROR

    DIABLO: WELCOME TO MY ***** OF TEAR-ORRRRRR, NO ONE HAS EVER ESCAPED

    *DIABLO DIES

    TYRAEL: WE DID IT BOYS... ANGELS.... AND MEN!!!!!!!!!!!!

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