JudicatorOfGenocide's "QuadraTech" tutorial - detailed safe macro oriented strat =D

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by judicatorofgenocide, August 30, 2013.

  1. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    Here is another tutorial for your guys enjoyment.

    Come check us out in the future at youtube channel mceldowney1. We are in the clan Ikon Gaming and look forward to bringing you good games, and strats. We will also be bringing you team strats in the future, and hope you enjoy our content. PLANETARY ANNIHILATION ROCKS !!!! =D Feel free to discuss/optimize the build/and request challenges when you see us gaming.
  2. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    I don't mean to sound nasty or anything but this is a very inefficient build order. Power gen should be built 2nd and building so much before your first factory is a very weak play. Your opponent will have several engineers building eco long before you start your first factory. Recommend you watch the gentleman's league players to understand the current opening meta strategy.
  3. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    the stored resources that you burn through catch up the deficit, in lack of income per second cuz you have banked resources thus providing a false boost to income per second, this not only allows the strong eco, but keeps the base compact and easy to defend, vs being spread out everywhere so quickly,thus vulnerable to different harassment patterns, show me a replay where they have fighting units on the field in 4:33 seconds, more factories, more fabbers, also the order of the gen is irrelevant because you max out the storage =D Post a replay or tutorial with numbers that beats the build in safety, units, production, income, and storage, and ease of actions per minute. Storage also allows for the benefit of user error when the actions per minute can not keep up with full optimization late game. If there are only certain areas where your posted tutorial wins then it has come down to a give and take and which strat and ease of build become player preference. I've watched the videos you have posted and the hard eco players lack fighting units early game thus leaving them open to attack =D. Your words are useless without proof ;D
  4. Clopse

    Clopse Post Master General

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    I do hope people watch your videos as they will bring the average level of gamers up significantly.

    Efficiency is the major difference between the ''meta'' gamers and the rest. I don't think it's a coincidence that the top 5 or so players have almost identical starting build orders. And I feel that puts them way ahead even before apm comes into play.

    That said your build orders will beat at least 95% of the current gamers with ease.

    I think air should be one of the first 2 factories. Knowing where your opponent is will determine your build and actions.

    If you need metal storage you're not been efficient enough. That's 900 mass wasted in my eyes.

    Sorry for hijacking your thread. Do love your videos. :)

    Edit: I'm afk right now to show a video but bombers would be attacking your undefended fabbers around the 4 mins mark.
  5. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    I'm a noob but I'm confident I would absolutely crush you. We should have a 1v1 to test :)
  6. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    a series of 1v1's =D
  7. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    im on irc gentlemens ladder looking 4 u zaphodx =D your posting so your at your cpu, lets game
  8. zaphodx

    zaphodx Post Master General

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    I'm at work. Hopefully I get internet access back today so maybe we can play at some point over the weekend (Unlikely this evening).
  9. judicatorofgenocide

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    cant play over weekend, cuz im working ^^ , so post a replay when you get the chance where the math crushes the numbers of posted build. i highly doubt you post one with a higher army count and higher income throughout the whole game, anypoint in the replay where your skeleton has a smaller army is the widow of opportunity for attack.................. also clopse if its know an opponent likes to rush bombers why not just empliment some anti air in the opening? ^^
  10. Clopse

    Clopse Post Master General

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    I think you should always implement it, as the people that would go early bombers are the people this build will probably struggle against and as I said this will beat most of the others easily anyhows.

    The window of attack is smaller the further away the opponent is. Another reason why scoutin is important.
  11. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    agreeded, and i just lost to a inferior build on the GL because i had idle workers everywhere, there are so many variables, if the build is so easly dismissed thats cool got to worries bout it I just request you post a replay so the numbers can be compared and we can see why the current meta game is the way it is. Also if the build when properly executed wins most matches how is it "VERY" inefficient, if this is the case prove it with a skeleton of a build that shows how truly inefficient the build is. I wanna see the most optimal build with units structers and resources
  12. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    In regards to numbers I'd shamelessly recommend to use PA stats on neptunios tourny planet.
    Best case we play a game both using it and just compare the graphs. Your build will seriously lack behind.
  13. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    id love to do that! care if i do a tutorial of your build also then? Shall we get on now?
  14. judicatorofgenocide

    judicatorofgenocide Active Member

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    tried to get a hold of you in IRC and you didn't respond.............. Its what ever could be crappy builds but i will continue to innovate and show the best I can to up the level of play for the general community till you guys start showing tutorials that are more optimized. Then all play will evolve from there. I see no reason as to keep the best builds to use from the hands of the community =D So i usually work thu-sat some time a wed or sun on either side, besides that i can usually get on to game between 1130 pm to 0500 us mt time when not tied up with school work, just hit me up so we can compare builds.
  15. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    I was playing, I just read your text and wanted to answer you.
    I am around to play for the next 10 hours or so. But sometimes I'll need 5 minutes to answer you.

    EDIT:
    So basically to reach me just join the irc for more than 5 minutes and ask for me. ;)
  16. Clopse

    Clopse Post Master General

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    I would hate to think people thought the best builds were been kept from the community. Never have I heard any other top player say no, you can't watch or cast. Most of the time they go out of their way to stream (even though it slows them down) or Rehost so watchers can join. Not to mention the shamelessly acknowledged pastats mod. :p

    As you have mentioned In Your previous post it may be the time difference that doesn't give you access to the euros on irc.

    We a good bunch even though we way better than you Americans. Trolololol. :p
    Last edited: August 30, 2013
  17. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    Oh I just realized your US... I have no idea about how our timezones relate, but as I am online quite a bit I think it would work out if you just join the IRC whenever you are online. I lurk around in it quite a lot.

    Also I wanted to say that it's awesome that you are making videos like this, they can definitely be helpful to many people and might help to increase the level of play. It's just that they still have rather obvious faults. The biggest one I see is that a perfect build would not waste mass, not stall mass and not store mass, same with energy. I myself am far away from that, but your build breaks those aims in the first few minutes already pretty hard.
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    Kind of sad I lost to this the other day. I request a rematch.

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