Build 51853 - NUKES! And anti-nukes are in the game. This brings much more interesting decision making and higher stakes mid to late game. A single nuke will not take out a commander. Multiple nukes will. The balance on these are first pass, so expect a bit of change on them especialliy in the coming weeks. Currently they are advanced fabber builder and commander builder. The commander building them is a mistake. Enjoy it while you can. - Huge number of fixes large and small, including a few perf improvements on the client, such as LOD on particle emmiters. Should help during heavy combat. - Mouse behavior should be much more consistent and reliable in game overall. Toggle selection (ctrl) now supported, Un-select (ctrl+shift) now supported, toggling in general now suppoted. ESC clears selection. - Pathing: Flocking behaviors have been implemented. When moving large groups of ground units, you should see them attempt to form better informal squads of troops, rather than long strings of units that tend to get picked off. - AI now respects metal spots when building - Number of new selection keybinds for units, factories, idle builders, etc. - Air no longer creates wreckage - Artillery units (mobile) should be a little more selective about targeting - Tanks should return their turrets to default position after a bit - Air units flight path involves much less circling now. - T2 costs more to get to now. Should slow down the intial tech rush a bit. - Walls have a physics block now, so they should act a little more to prevent pathing. - Known Issues (big ones): - Random Tropical planets can end up being a bit rocky. - Planets that are mostly water can be challenging to play on currently
Mostly due to the fact that there are almost no start points (which is problematic) and building a full naval only base leaves out some pretty important units.
I read "[Nukes]... are a Commander builder" as "The Commander is capable of building nuclear missiles". I chuckled at the thought of the Commander fabbing up a Nuke and then just chucking it at the enemy. But seriously now: Awesome, awesome awesome work. Water planets might only be challenging to play on now that Nukes are in-game, I've had quite a bit of fun with them. I'm glad for flocking, less micro means more fun. My only criticism is Air units no longer creating wreckage. The only thing abnormal about their wreckage was that it floated on water, aside from that it worked pretty well, better than the original wrecks that phased through the ground. Looking forward to every patch now, it's great to see the game progressing more and more. It's also fun to learn from your guys' posts and insights, I hope to see more of the nitty gritty tech if any of Uber has the time.
Size of Update: ~15MB Other Changes New Strategic Icons for Nuke Launcher, Anti Nuke Launcher, Nuclear Missile, Anti Nuke Missile Build Icon for Anti-Nuke missile Addition of the following orbital units (not playable yet): Defense Satellite, Mining Platform, Orbital Fighter, Solar Array Planet editor planets now have random names (submitted by players in the $140+ Kickstarter tier). New brushes for planets: 5 for Metal worlds 9 for Lava worlds Updated look for Lava Worlds Updated look for Metal Worlds Nuclear Missile Launcher & Anti Nuke Launcher now buildable by Commander Most T1 structures (except for Radar, Pelter and Land Barrier) now buildable by T2 fabricators Build menu now has scroll arrows Unit Changes T2 Air Factory Metal Cost: 1650 => 3300 T2 Bot Factory Metal Cost: 2750 => 5500 T2 Naval Factory Metal Cost: 3300 => 6600 T2 Vehicle Factory Metal Cost: 2750 => 5410 T2 Missile Ship Altered missile firing stages T1 Bomber Weapon now has spread fire attribute T2 Nuke Metal Cost: 10800 => 5410 Health: 2000 => 1500 T2 Nuke Missile Metal Cost: 32400 Damage: 1 => 11000 Splash damage: 1 => 11000 Splash radius: 10 Flight path changed (Only collides with ground) T2 Anti Nuke Now has buildable projectile Health: 5000 => 3500 Sight Range: 110 => 100 Max Range: 600 => 200 T2 Anti Nuke Missile Metal Cost: 17280 Damage: 1 Max Velocity: 80 => 200 Flight path changed T1 Air Defense Metal Cost: 300 => 200 Modders See PA Modding Changes for a list of changes that affect mods. Bug Fixes FS#1675 - Team only chat only accepts left shift FS#1766 - Nuclear Missile Launcher not wireframe at start of construction FS#1834 - right clicking while placing a structure issues a move command
Right before I head off to work :cry: does the mouse selection toggle work with box selection? If it does you should put a toggle for the unit catagory to be selected :mrgreen:
I don't know if this was ever reported, but I cba to write a bug report (dunno how) but if a metal spot is too deep underwater, you can't build a metal extractor on it, because the water depth is deeper than the metal spot snapping distance.
Does this mean there have been changes to how start points are calculated? I've been trying to find good island seeds to play on and they have been working pretty well for the most part. Only issue I've had is with seeds that have too many tiny islands with 0 mass points, increasing the risk you only get spawn options on those points.
I just took out the AI commander with 1 nuke.. Need to try more times to make sure he wasn't damaged already, but it seems the nukes do too much dmg?
Oh joys - I'm out of action this weekend due to moving house! Looks like I'm dependent on Twitch and Youtube for a bit to see how these nukes looks
Luckily Nuke Launchers have low health, high cost, and Nukes themselves take forever to build. I tried to play a "nuclear war" once the patch came out, and even with +1000 metal income and an assload of Fabbers assisting and building more nukes launchers, it still took forever to build one nuke, time which my enemy could have spent destroying me with T2 Bombers, navy or an expanded land force. However he was rushing nukes too, and I won the nukerush because he entirely neglected eco expansion. Overall I don't think Nukes will matter unless there is a massive Stalemate or there is fighting across multiple planets. They just take too long to build. Also, Nuke Defenses just prove the previous argument that it's just easier to blow up your enemy's nuke launchers than build countermeasures. An antinuke is nice for your energy farms and your Commander, but aside from that, a few T2 Bombers, T2 Bots or some forward Catapults or Stingrays will do the job much quicker, with much less hassle, and with more positive side-effects (demolishing your enemy's base being one of these side effects). On that topic, I strongly dislike the nerf to T2 and I hope that a proper T2 will exist in/by Beta, more of a TA T2 than a SupCom T2/T3.
Speaking of nukes... I was wondering if the fact that the building animation is sideways is the expected behavior or not. It looks weird to me (well... I was expecting it to be bottom-to-top instead of outside-to-inside), but it might be intended.
Working as expected, but not as intended. The build effect works by going from the "ground plane" (local zero) to the top of a model in its local space. Missiles are built upright, so they're actually on their side. The build line also starts half way through the missile rather than through it. I plan on doing a pass on the build effects to fix this so it starts from the visual base and always goes up, but it didn't get in for this patch.
Just had a few games. In my most recent game with hexafelonius I had probably my first truly 'unplayable' speed. The simulation crawled. Building each thing took many minutes and moving tanks over to a base normally 1 min away took probably 10 or more minutes of real time! As hexa said in the game, perhaps its the pathfinding. Is it (O)n^2 or something? It felt like it. It'll be great when it works (and perhaps it isn't the culprit) but something is!
Same here, but at the same time, noticed a really nice improvement in pathfinding especially with Tanks.
I found that fabricators can not assist Nuke launchers with there building of missiles. Had a nuke making a missile for 10 min, with positive eco, and it didn't finish. From what i have seen the nuke has unlimited range as there is no red circle for it, like a catapult. One other odd thing is that I can not use key commands to build. If i press a key to build something it will not let me place it on the ground.
