32-Bit Gameplay

any news if the 32 bit version will be available this week?

Just install a 64bit Version, there's no reason to use a 32bit Version for the last five or so years. You can't even use all of the RAM installed in your PC with 32bit Windows, assuming you have at least 4GB installed. If not, you won't have much fun with the Client anyway and need to invest in new Hardware.

That's easy. If it's not 64-bit, then it doesn't stand a chance.

That CPU is ancient and useless. I don't even know how you consider that a valid argument. If anything, it helps prove just how pointless 32-bit support is.

Im sorry, where did you learn about computers? If applicable, you might want to request a refund.

All hardware has been 64bit compatabile for over 10 years. If someone is truly running a 32bit only CPU, then their computer cant even run this game.

The fact that you are suggesting somone needs to upgrade their hardware to get 64bit copatibility shows just how little about computers you really know.

In the workforce maybe, but that number is dropping very quickly.

Based on gaming statistics taken by Valve through Steam, most gamers are using Windows 7.

The best way to solve this is common sense.

Why even bother with legacy support? Wasted money really.

some news about it?

On top of this if you had a laptop with that processor installed you probably don't have the graphics system with it to play the game either.

As has been pointed out in many far older threads on this topic, any system capable of running PA is by definition capable of running a 64 bit OS. A Windows 7/8 license is $100 and dual booting Linux is free.

I understand that this is a hassle and I am sure Uber will release a 32 bit client as soon as they are reasonably able to.

I HOPE they DO release it. Even though my machine is 64bit capable i only have a 32bit OS and i cannot afford a new one. Windows 7's price here is half the price of a brand new gaming rig. So uh, yeah.. i'll pass on that and just wait till they release a 32bit version for us poor people.

Yeah 64bit aint cheap! im gunna have to save since dont look like 32bit is comming any time soon!

I must have missed something here, I thought the only option for PA would be 64 bit as big battles would be using more than 4gb of memory.

Why is there a 32bit version being made, is it because people do have 64 bit systems, but more often than not it has the basic windows 7 version that's 32bit only?

While a 32 bit version will have limits on the sizes of battles that it can participate in connecting to a 64 bit server will help somewhat. Also there are enough people running out dated 32 bit OS's that it still makes economic sense to release a 32 bit client.

However any servers I run will not be permitting connections from 32 bit clients if I can help it.

There have already been a few threads about this.

I for one have a Vista SP2 32-bit :| . A few Questions for anyone who knows:

1. I don't plan on multiplayer (due to DSL) but if would having a 32-bit (I have 4GB RAM and a relatively recent Graphics card) computer screw with single player, especially when the whole galaxy mode thing comes out?

2. I see a lot of arguing in this thread of upgradability. If I were to post my specs (later, I'm at work), could you tell me if I could upgrade to a 64-bit Windows Vista or 7?

3. If I were to upgrade to windows 7 64-bit, would I lose my memory (primarily my C drive)? Please let me know.

Considering the idea behind Galactic War is that it's a Meta-game to tie together a series of regular games, I don't imagine it'll be any different from regular games as far as performance goes.

Mike

Assuming that you have a reasonably fast CPU and GPU you should be able to play PA just fine. However there will be some artificial limits on the size of the single player matches you will be able to play and the number of units in said matches due to the memory constraints of a 32 bit platform.

Odds are you can but if you post your exact CPU model we will be happy to look it up for you.

There generally isn't much difference between the amount of hard drive space used by Windows Vista/7/8. At least not when you consider how incredibly cheap rotary hard drives are. Its the other stuff that you install that really matters. While you can do an upgrade from Vista to 7 I recommend a format and clean install if possible.

Edit: Although now that I think about it you may not be able to "upgrade" from 32 bit Vista to 64 bit 7/8.

Thanks for that.

HP Pavillion a6030n
Windows Vista SP2
4GB RAM
AMD Athelon 64X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.5 Ghz
Graphics card: ATI Radeon HD 4550
Sound card: IDK how to find that there's no specific device in device manager. Whatever it is its Direct X 10 compatable so it can't be that old right :?: ?

I was talking more about my info being lost accidentally due to the process itself notso much memory differences. Would it be possible for me just to upgrade to a 64-bit Vista then decide whether or not I want to upgrade to windows 7?

AMD Athelon 64X2 Dual Core Processor 4800+ 2.5 Ghz

The 64 means 64 bit.

You will need to copy your files off the drive before upgrading :/

Nope. Upgrade from 32 to 64bit and vice versa is not supported. You'll need to do a fresh install from scratch. And if you do that, theres no reason to not use 7 instead of Vista. It's essentially the same, 7 is just newer and more polished.

Having said that, i fear you won't be able to enjoy PA much at all with your system. Your CPU and Graphics Card are both way underpowered and outdated. The 4550 is about five years old and was already low-end on introduction. RAM-wise 4GB could work, but i'd recommend more.

You cannot run an in-place upgrade from 32-bit to 64-bit, even with the same version of Windows (e.g. Vista 32 to Vista 64). You also cannot do an in-place upgrade from XP to Vista+, even if you stick with 32-bit. You can do an in-place upgrade from Vista 64 to Win7 or Win8 64, with the caveat that some programs or settings may not make the transition intact.

For fresh installs of Windows, the User State Migration Tool will be able to deal with some of your files and settings, but not necessarily all installed programs. If you do need to format and (re)install, I would recommend getting external storage (e.g. a large capacity USB stick, or preferably a USB hard disk) and copying off everything you want to keep, as well as ensuring you already have the install media and keys for all your programs (either the physical disks, or download the installers from the developer website if it is a digital distribution). Put it all on your external storage before you look at reinstalling, just to be safe.

Note that while a Windows license will definitely cost money, there are a few quite friendly Linux distributions that are both 64-bit, and have no cost associated (I use Mint personally, which is based on Ubuntu). I would only recommend looking at those once you have a copy of all your data and you are considering a reinstall anyway, since any Linux install will by definition not have your Windows programs available (even if you dual-boot it and still have Vista installed and available). It is actually quite easy to install Linux to run alongside Windows, however it is quite daunting and I would always make sure all important data is backed up on an external disk, before doing anything that might affect your hard disk. Once you have everything safe, then you can mess around to your hearts content

The Pavilion a6030n looks like it'll be near the bottom end of kit which can run PA; it should run, but it'll be slow. I managed to get the alpha working on my AMD E-350 mini-pc I use as an HTPC, which is a dual core 1.6GHz with AMD HD6310 graphics (4GB RAM, Win7 64-bit), and that managed 5-10fps @ 1080p resolution. It worked fine to show off PA to some friends (who I've already bought beta or retail keys for), but I would not call it playable

It's not want you want to hear, but my recommendation would be to consider buying new kit; either enough replacement bits to upgrade your HP case, or (if you don't like the idea of putting it together yourself, and you'll need to reinstall the OS from scratch anyway) a new midrange desktop. Look for:
at least a Core-i3 / AMD Phenom processor (Core-i5+ or Athlon FX preferred)
at least 4GB RAM (8+GB preferred)
at least an AMD Radeon 6000 series / nVidia 500 series graphics, with at least 1GB VRAM (Radeon 7850+ / nVidia 660+ with 2+GB VRAM preferred)
hard disk sized to taste; I doubt you'll find smaller than 500GB without looking, and most prebuilt systems at the "preferred" level will be 1TB plus

For perspective, my current gaming rig is an Intel i5 3570K (top of the range i5 desktop processor), with 16GB RAM and an "old" nVidia GTX 460, and I'm getting a fairly steady 30fps in the alpha. I could buy a better graphics card, and it would perform better if I did, but at this time I don't see a point in upgrading it just yet. 30fps is fine for the time being

Assuming that you can reuse your keyboard, screen, mouse, speakers, hard drive, and optical drive from your current PC you could build a budget gaming box for PA for about $420.

If you have more money to spend you can put a high end PA box together for just under $675.

If you can't reuse anything from your old PC or just prefer not to then you can pick up the rest of the bits needed to complete either system for about $200.