Plans for Intel HD 4000 ?

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by fellowplanet, June 18, 2013.

  1. fellowplanet

    fellowplanet New Member

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    Currently there are some interesting tablets like the "Acer Iconia Tab W701P" with an Intel HD 4000. There are no better tablets, yet - maybe in the future (end 2013, 2014+).

    Are there plans that we will be able to play on the Intel HD 4000 without lags on the lowest graphic level? Or should I really need to wait for better tablets with HD4600+?

    I only speak about the final game and the plans of graphics of them.

    I hope UberEnt is planning to allow us very low settings of graphics, so that HD4000 playing (maybe HD3000 playing?) would be able in any way around 30/60 FPS :)

    (Ivy Bridge) Intel HD 4000 ~ AMD Radeon HD 7470M ~ nVidia GT 520M
    (Haswell) Intel HD 4600 ~ AMD Radeon HD 6750M ~ nVidia GT 555M
  2. neutrino

    neutrino low mass particle Uber Employee

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    I do want to support the 4000 but I'm not sure you'll ever get 60fps ;)

    We do run the game on these now BTW in ultrabooks.
  3. antillie

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    While they want PA to be playable on Intel graphics I wouldn't hold my breath for great performance. See this thread.
  4. cola_colin

    cola_colin Moderator Alumni

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    You plan to play PA on a tablet? Those poor tablets^^
  5. antillie

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    That was my other thought. What kind of crazy person tries to game on a tablet? I mean Angry Birds is one thing but a full blown RTS?
  6. OathAlliance

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    Those of us who blew 1k on Surface Pro's. mean, I have lots of comps that will play this. But I have a friend who only has a Pro...
  7. antillie

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    Then you blew $1k on a device that's not really suitable for serious gaming when a gaming PC costs $600-$700 tops.
  8. OathAlliance

    OathAlliance Well-Known Member

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    Well, I have a self built Gaming desktop and an Asus gaming laptop. For me at least the Pro was nice for moving around.
  9. antillie

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    I agree that tablets are certainly useful and nice to have. They just aren't useful as gaming platforms at the moment. (Not counting casual games anyway.)

    Perhaps now that Nvidia is licensing their GPUs we will see some tablets with serious gaming potential hit the market. Assuming of course that game devs can find a way around the lack of a proper keyboard and mouse and make games that play well on both platforms.

    However for the things that a tablet is useful for, a Nexus 7/10 is just as good and much cheaper. If the Surface could join a domain then things would be different but MS seems to have missed the point on that one.
  10. OathAlliance

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    Well, because it's a crossover(desktop OS and CPU and a tablet) I can do a lot more that I'd like to do while still being able to have it very portable. Overall, I'm quite satisfied with it.
  11. antillie

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    The surface is a great tablet. The problem is that a Nexus will do 95% of things it does for much less with just as much mobility while a $350 Dell Ultrabook will do everything it does (and some things it can't do) for less with almost as much mobility.

    In fact you can buy both that Dell and a Nexus 7/10 for less than the cost of the Surface, get the best of both worlds, and pocket a few hundred dollars.

    For most people the Nexus or the Dell just make more sense. The Surface does have a unique spot by combining the power of a desktop CPU/OS with the mega mobility of a tablet but the segment of the market where both of those traits are needed is awfully tiny.

    If it was ~$400 or if it could join an Active Directory domain then the Surface would sell like crazy. If both conditions were true then MS would own most of the tablet market.
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  12. ycnz

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    I've been using a Samsung Ativ Pro for a few months now, and it's actually surprisingly useful. I have desktops at both work and home, but for meetings/wandering around the tablet's really quite handy. It can definitely replace a laptop - and I've really gotten over the idea of using laptops as general use computers - worrying about buying particular laptops that have the right video output/GPU was really tedious.
  13. hixday93800

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    False, a decent pc for ''Serious'' gaming will be between 1200-1500 by serious you mean 110 fps playing battlefield 3 / planetside 2 also crysis with lower fps but let's not talk about it....

    You need a good processor, eight core maybe, video card 200/300$ minimum, 8 to 16 gb or memory a good powersupply 550 W minimum, 700/800 recommanded or more for multiples video card hardrive and i'm not talking about dvd, sound and network card. When you have no screen mouse keyboard etc you can go with cheap ofc but in a normal world for the equipement a 19'' screen for 90 bucks key/mous 50 for both.

    what ever, 600-700$ PC is not for big serious gaming.

    Sorry about how i'm writing, i'm a little bad in english. Not my first language :)
  14. numptyscrub

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    I think you're confusing the RT with the Pro. The Surface Pro is an ultrabook, running Windows 8 Professional x64. It can join domains and apply group policy objects just fine ;)

    At that price point it is more expensive than similar laptop products though, which coupled with the lack of upgradeable storage means I wouldn't consider getting one myself. I have had a play with both (the RT and Pro) and was suitably impressed, but if I was buying with that budget there are other devices that would fit my requirements better (better GPU / more storage etc.). If it was a zero cost choice (i.e. work offering a Pro vs a laptop) I'd probably take the Pro though ;)
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    Incorrect. A gaming CPU starts at $80 and goes up to $220. More than that is pointless. Anything with more than 4 cores is a waste. Hyper threading is not necessary. A reasonable video card is $115 to $170. Dual card setups are a waste.

    There is simply no reason to buy "high end" hardware for gaming these days. In fact here is an entire new gaming rig for under $500 if you have a hard drive, optical drive, screen, speakers, mouse and keyboard from an old PC. If you don't have those things you can get all of them for about $200.

    Spending $1000 or more on a gaming PC is just ludicrous.
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    I stand corrected. But at $1000 the Surface Pro just can't compete with $350 laptops and $400 tablets when it comes time to make a decision about what type of device to buy for thousands of sales guys. And its pretty hard to justify the extra expense for home users too.
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    I just got one recently, and I've fallen in love with the simultaneous touch and pen input. I also think my biggest issue with it is the small screen size. With the type keyboard cover and a bluetooth mouse it's not much different from an ultra book for gaming. But 1080P on 10" when nothing is designed for that, you gotta get used to reading a lot of tiny text, that is where I think tablets in general are gonna have issues playing RTS games.

    The Dell XPS 18 (AIO that is basically an 18 inch tablet...) that I might consider trying to game on
  18. antillie

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    Yeah I think that tablets have an awful lot of potential as gaming platforms. Just not in the way that most people think.

    If all of the major console game publishers from the 90's and early 2000's were to release their Sega Genesis, SNES, PS1, PS2, N64, and Dreamcast titles for Android and Windows RT along with a cheap Bluetooth game pad we would see a real revolution in tablet sales and usage.

    A modern tablet can already easily run all those games in emulation. Proper ports backed by marketing campaigns would probably be wildly successful.

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