negativity towards STEAM

first off I am NOT a troll and because I have a Steam account I am some how a person of less standing according to some of the post on your forums. I'm a big supporter of the game community. hence the 159 titles I have on my Steam account. But I can tell you now I will never Buy another UBER title again. I found your $90 price tag just insulting and I find The negativity towards STEAM and its community uncalled for.


What I use steam the most for is to stay in touch with my buddies that I had deployed with in real Wars. and we could get to gather and play some Civ5 and get drunk over teamspeek, so don't assume all STEAM Members are Punk Kids.

There is your problem.

Hey, I paid $90 for alpha access eight months ago.

I paid that back during the KickStarter campaign.

I paid that with the expectation that I'd get alpha access to a game in the alpha stage of development.

I paid that with the expectation that I'd be able to communicate my thoughts and feeling about the game to Uber.

I'm completely happy with how I spent my money. Uber has delivered everything they promised to me.

It'd be insulting to myself, and the thousands of other people who gave good money last year, if Uber decided to give scrubs like you the same rewards that we get for less money.


Your selfish ignorance is insulting. The $90 price tag isn't about you. It's about everyone else.

The assumption isn't that all Steamers are punk kids; noone can really actually think that about anywhere on the internet and be accurate. The assumption is that alot are. This is pretty accurate. Look at... preeeettttyyymuch every single Greenlit game Discussion anywhere on steam.

I do some admin work on there for a few Greenlighters; I'm honestly ashamed of my fellow Steamers more than I am proud.

Erm, I actually love Steam and Valve. I use Steam every day, have a huge friendlist, add games that are not on Steam and have an extensive library. I think I can say that the developers share my passion for Steam.

But i love steam...

Where is the like button...

And where is the "And in eight months you will be treated exactly the same as someone who got it for 50% off on Steam/GoG/Wherever" button?

OP has one post, and starts off by saying he's not a troll.

I'm pretty sure that's self-defining

Typical human behaviour, vent your steam before looking into the matter
No problem, happens to me as well.

Anyway .. why would you as steam user have the alpha cheaper than somebody that is a early backer?

You don't have to buy it at $90. Don't treat alphas like "oh hey I get to play earlier for cheaper".

At least I know my name will be in the credits and I can take personal joy in knowing that I helped carve the game into what it is and aid in making history. Even though I personally didn't back on KS...

I am not quite sure if I understand what you are trying to say, but I don't care if someone gets the game cheaper... you can already get the game for $40 or backers got it even for $20... I chose to pay $90 for several reasons... not to buy the game, I pledged...pledged... because of Kickstarter backers the game is being developed... otherwise there would be no PA.

The game costs $40, and the steam folk coming in here are the ones shouting negatives which are uncalled for.

The users of Steam whom have banded together against this game for some unforeseen reason, mostly have resorted and devolved into doing nothing but wiki piracy, metacritic review stacking, spreading false negative information, and threatening to boycott.

In other words, going out of their way to as loudly as possible make a nuisance.

If you were so civil, why this? Have you never been to another forum besides this one? Is it okay in those forums to make multiple stacked posts raging against things there are already 20 existing threads about? 4chan doesn't count.

This game releases in December, for $40. Quit rating it on a review site, it isn't even released yet and none of the reviews are even by anybody who has ran the game. Quit posting about the ridiculous price, we really do not intend for anyone outside of modders and bug testers and those interested in balance shaping to look into alpha or beta. Stop smearing false information about the game without ever having ran it.

If you personally have never done any of this, then at the very least stop defending the guys who have. Nobody here said all steam users are bad, but these things show us a large group of them who are.

Big supporter? 159 titles? hmm, is that alot?

Let me see.... My profile says 1399 games owned, And i put 115$ to this game and its really nothing. so wth?

Good kickstarter strategy is having a fall-back plan. I would be surprised if PA would have died of crib-death if its had failed to meet its goal. Heck Kickstarter is basically just a way of showing real investors and venture capitalists that there is enough market desire to give them a good return on their investment. And get people to give you money while doing it!

Its a knifes edge that Uber has to walk for a little while until this blows over. On one hand they already have your money, so in a way you ar less important to them than someone who has not bought in to PA yet. But you might give them more money in the future (and you have been proven pre-disposed to doing that) so they don't want to offend you too much. But on the other hand, they also want money from people who aren't you who haven't yet given them money. So they can't offend them too much either. Yes this is a very cynical way of describing the situation, but its a correct one.

I think the general consensus on the hive-mind of the internet is that putting the game on steam was a bit of a 'derp'.

The 'derp' is entirely on the Hivemind's side of this thought, it's a shame it still needs it's hand held while being introduced to something new like the Steam Early Access Program.

Mike

You're mistaking the "hivemind's" "misunderstanding" for the "hivemind's" " genuine outrage." There's a distinct difference. Just because I disagree so wholeheartedly with Uber's decision to release on Steam for such an insane price and what it implies for the industry at large has nothing to do with whether or not I understand the argument. I understand it fully; it simply burns me to no end that developers and publishers are beginning think that way.

Trust me, I fully understand the WHOLE story...I've read extensively both sides of the argument. Regardless, I'm on the side of those who think your decision to release the game (oh, I'm sorry, I'm sorry...PRE-RELEASE) in this way is insulting to consumers. You can disagree with me in turn, but you can't claim that I don't understand it, and it would be in your company's best interest to see things from a consumer's perspective rather than yours and yours alone, and refuting that the consumer's perspective has any value whatsoever. Unless, of course, you don't want customers.

They know what Early Access is perfectly well. Its just that what Uber wanted to do with PA's early access was probably not the best fit for what Early Access is.

I love Steam. Have spent thousands through steam. And I am perfectly fine with the $90 alpha, if you are not (to put it bluntly) that is basically your problem op. I understand and respect uber's position on this and I think they made the right choice