32-Bit Gameplay

Hey just wondering when does the 32-bit version start coming out hoping for a staff reply soon?
-GurfX

Very soon. We actually verified that the build works, now we just need to get the client pushing. We should be able to get it out next week.

Oh... i thought by soon Uber meant like in a day?
Thanks for the info... il just change my 32 bit computer into a 64 bit

If your system has the ability to be 64bit, why would you have 32bit installed? I think im missing something here =S

This is a good idea regardless. We're about 5 years past the time where it's a good idea to stay 32-bit, unless you absolutely have to for compatibility reasons.

Got any idea on how to make a win 7 to 64 bit windows 7+

Reinstalling Windows is the only way I'm afraid.

Sorry, this is a really 'bad' piece of advice.

To go from 32-Bit to 64-Bit, you first need a 64-Bit compatible Processor. Even though you can install a 32-Bit Windows on 64-Bit hardware, it is highly likely you don't have this, since you have 32-Bit installed. So, you need to buy a new Processor, which means you will need to buy a new Motherboard, you might need to buy new RAM also.

Upgrading to 64-Bit isn't a simple install, it has to be on 64-Bit architecture hardware.

You might as well wait for the 32-Bit version to come out, then look at buying a new computer in the future.

- Luna

ANY half way recent "gaming" computer is quite capable of 64 Bit. Even my 3 year old NETBOOK supports it.

Honestly, if he still have "32bit architecture hardware" i doubt he would even be able to run the game (even the 32bit version), thats a very old computer... If so buy a new computer.

But theres a suprising amount of people that has a 32bit OS installed on a system with 64bit architecture hardware (without reason). If thats the case just reinstall windows using the 64bit version.

in part, this is also because often enough preinstalled windows on complete pcs/notebooks deals has been 32bit for a long time and most people didn't bother to change that if there was no need.

in the end, as has been written before, check what actual hardware you have and make the decision afterwards, guessing what's common or usual doesn't help in these cases.

This advice is even worse. There is no desktop processor that isn't 64-bit, because it has been publicly available since 2003. So if you bought something in the last SIX years (a requirement for playing ANY modern game), then you have it.

So the 32-bit version seems to run ok but did have a few oddities. Mainly I was worried about memory consumption but the game has gotten more reasonable lately. I still think running out of memory will be a real concern as the games get bigger. We may do things like lock down the maximum video settings (some of the higher settings burn crazy amounts of address space in the client).

why dont you just ask what processor he has, then you can tell him straight up whether it can be done or not.

I'm sorry but this is totally untrue. Aside from a few early iMacs there are no dual core mainstream desktop CPUs that are not 64 bit capable. Neither AMD nor Intel ever made any dual core 32 bit only desktop chips. Since PA absolutely requires a dual core CPU if your box can run PA then it by definition can run a 64 bit OS. RAM is super cheap, 64 bit Windows 7/8 is $100, and Linux is free.

There is no technical excuse for running a 32 bit OS on any machine that is capable of running PA.

There are quite a lot of Dual Core Desktop Processors that are 32-Bit. (Like this one for example.) The vast majority of computers still run Windows XP, not Windows 7, as people like to stick with what they know. This was the same for the 32-Bit architecture, it was adopted much later than introduced. The Core 2 Duo Processors were released in 2006, and were highly popular, only superseded by the Core i3, i5 & i7 in late 2009, but were still sold in large quantities until 2011 when they were retired from the market.

As said by others, the best way to solve this would be to run 'msinfo32' either checking the 'System Type' or looking at the 'Processor' and finding out from there.

- Luna

As a side point, this is not very accurate any more. Win Vista, 7 and 8 account for approximately 55% of world marketshare in 2013. XP Still has a surprising 39%, though a LOT of that is also corporate and medical industry (Every hospital I've been to in the Seattle area has old embedded XP versions that are required because of old legacy medical software).

Mac, still at about 8%, and "Other" (read Linux) at 2%.

Just like to have accurate data when we're making sweeping generalizations.

Pedantic producer is pedantic. :mrgreen:

That CPU is so old its not even relevant to modern gaming, nor is it a desktop chip. It wouldn't be able to run PA anyway. I'll say it again, there are no dual core 32 bit only desktop chips.

This is just not true.

Steam survey:
http://store.steampowered.com/hwsurvey
86% has Vista or higher and 70% has a 64-bit Windows (this is not counting 64-bit macs and Linux machines).

The more you know...

Yeah, i was one of them (okay, 4 years ago, but still)
I didn't know much about 32bit vs 64bit back then, i just heard/read some scare-post online about how 64bit didnt support all applications and blah blah. You know, the usual bollocks people write about new things when they are afraid of change, bringing 'facts' out of their arses to collaborate their theory.
Like the good old argument about how Windows 7 was going to be a super system-hog due to the nicer interface and taskbar previews. lol

Sadly, such things can affect you if you're not informed about it.
It was the same thing back in the day about FAT-32 vs NTFS, Win XP vs Vista etc (granted Vista was slow, but at least it didn't bluescreen every week).
Ah, pc gaming can be a pain sometimes if you don't read up on every detail so you know what you're getting. :lol: