Biome type weather and climate effects

Wow, that's harsh. I should probably feel bad about that, except I'm just being picked on because I'm normally right. :lol:

There's any number of reasons the environment can screw over radar. Such as if the particulates screw over radar. Or if the environment is made entirely of metal. It won't necessarily be left untouched.

I ever wanted to see that in a game. But now I'm not sure anymore.
Implementing this into the game...

First: I think it is a great technical challenge.
Second: At some point you don't fight against your enemy anymore. You fight against the weather.

And some points I don't get:
Soft sand reduces also the movement speed of vehicles. In fact it could get stuck.
And of course you can use air units on a moon-type surface. You levitate all the time if you jump around. You have less gravity. That does not mean, you cannot fly anymore. You just have to think about HOW to do this.

From playing the beta of an upcoming RTS with weather effects I can only say one thing: don't exaggerate the effects of weather effects on core gameplay. Subtle changes are okay, but they should not be able to screw your tactics or even make you loose.

Maybe as an expansion, but even then. Trying to play the game through heavy cloud cover?!?

All focus should be put on making a functioning game before even thinking about added extras like that.

IDK who Funkoff is, but some "hardcore strategy" players just want a sterile arena like Chess. (so go play chess then, eh?)

With a 3D Camera.... you can defeat cloud cover!

Can you?

Mike

Have you played World In Conflict?

It uses WASD for directional movement like any fps. Mouse behaves like it does in any RTS but when ALT (I think, could be middle mouse) is held it acts like an FPS view point, enabling you to get just the view point you want.

You could go up and down from a soldier's eye view of the battlefield to near satellite view, above the clouds that were both regular and mushroom in variety.

Speaking of which, is there a topic on camera controls?

But a unit's eye view is horribly for actual gameplay especially considering we're on round planets with varied vertical terrain as seen in the Desert Biome Concept

Cloud cover is even more awkward when considering Strategic Zoom, you have to pull off trickery to make clouds transparent or otherwise not obscure the view, so why deal with them at all?

Mike

I said it could move from a units eye view.

You should really try the game, its excellent.

I agree. Effects should be present, but minor (ie, a speed penalty of 10-20%.)

You don't give the PA team enough credit!

IRL this is only true of wheeled vehicles. Tracked vehicles are far less impacted by sand due to more even pressure distribution.

You realize that air units work not by resisting gravity (they don't) but by interacting with the air, right? Although thrust can be generated without air, the ability to turn (and thus move in meaningful ways) depends on air being present in a high enough density that it can produce forces strong enough to accelerate a large aircraft.

As long as biome weather effects are clearly seen and consistently applied, I would love to see them in the game.

That means that 'weather' would have to consist of 'consistently foggy here', as opposed to 'this area may have an occasional heavy storm'. I think we all agree that random events that mess with your game are crap. However, you COULD have a non random weather pattern that moves an effect around - for example, in a desert, you could have a sandstorm effect that moves in a circular pattern at a set speed. This would allow for neat effects the player could plan around.

I do like the above idea that the weather effects are constant in an area but just that, in an area. They can thus be mobile and so a player can look at a part of a map and be able to tell what area is being weather-effected and what area has the potential to be, such as a sandstorm that oscillates along a path.

I want someone to mod in a mobile sandatorm generator

this all sounds like alot of work...

Would mundane cloud cover even effect super advanced kill bots? How do we know they aren't seeing gamma rays and hearing xrays?

I am so very, very tired of this argument. imho, Uber made a mistake with their 'perfectly evolved units of war' line. So many people seem to think it means all units should have god mode on and nothing at all in the world should ever affect the design or abilities of a unit.

Your joke sounded too close to Bobucles to make me laugh. Hah. That's probably a joke in and of itself.