JUICE! DAMNED JUICE

I know Juice fits perfectly in the whole fiction of MNC. However to me the true beauty of this game is 6 unique balanced classes working as a team. Juice unbalances the game too much. You invest loads of money in your turrents and some noob can go spend $500 and wreck the whole thing. I know juice aint going no where but here are some ideas.

1. Make each juice harder to get. First Juice $500, your next hit $1000, on up
2. Each juice should be harder to earn after your first juice make it harder to get the next, and the next ...
3. Juice Machines should shut down in OT. Juice Rushing is the single most broken, unbalancing, and cheap thing in the game, and its sucks to play hard all game just to be JR'd at the end.
4. Ok Juice boosts offense but dont let it boost defense too, you shoud be just as easy to kill as normal.
Like I said the concept is cool but it breaks an other wise beautifully balanced and unique game. MNC is my game of the year I have put more hours in this game than any this gen. I love it. Please consider some of these suggestions. What yall think?

I actually love these changes.. if you have to rely on Juice to be good.. then your not good.

No matter what class i play i get juice an often amount of time and i do dislike juice because it does make it unbalance, i like these changes, they seem fair enough.

with decent map control, the juice timers actually work out perfectly so that you can buy one juice, go use it, buy the second juice and use that, and by this time, the first juice is off of cooldown and can be bought again. rinse/repeat

Thats what he's talking about, too much juice using.

im agreeing with OP

Oh, alright, gotca

Ever since the DLC (which fixed the instant healing of Juiced players), I can crowd control Juiced players by myself. You have to be careful and try to predict what they are going to do. Since the DLC I also see Juice MUCH less.

I hear you, I've taken down a few Juicers, but you are high level player. Everybody's not gonna be able to do that. Weird thing is I swear I've seen MORE juice since DLC, maybe just my imagination but I think the optimum is no one character should get more than 2 juices, preferably once

I agree with the OP and would like to see further Juice-limiting measures added, although things are much better than they used to be pre-DLC. 3.3 rock-its with a good defensive support will often survive enemy juice runs now. And I'll now take on and sometimes kill juiced players, or at least waste their juice without our turrets being damaged.

I'd be interested to hear from Uber whether Juice was always part of the game design or whether it was added later for balance reasons, such as turtling teams being too hard to break. I wish it wasn't part of the game and that everything was balanced around the core six classes.

EDIT: Lazer blazer juicing might explain why you sometimes see more juicing post-DLC. Hopefully that will be fixed soon.

Yeah ultimately I guess I would like to see no Juice but I def. see where it fits into the game. I want to run some private matches with Juice disabled. What is Laser Blazer Juicing?

Stand in front of a Lazer Blazer and taunt.. gives you a lot of juice

No, just no.

They already nerfed juice. Find something worthwhile to cry about.
Nerfing juice was SO pre-dlc :roll:


In all seriousness, Juice was nerfed pretty damn hard in the dlc.

The game should not be tailored to appease those who care not for improving themselves and actually learning to deal with juice and the role it plays in the game.
Juiced up players can be pretty easy to control, so much so that you can not only completely waste their juice, but even kill them in the process.
Once blazers are fixed, juice will be in a good spot.

@Zabari
Its pretty obvious you are new to mnc and as such you have yet to learn the ins and outs of the game, please fight the urge to come running to the forums with a new nerf post every time you have trouble with an aspect of the game.
I know juice and firebases and such give you a hard time, but you just need more practice. Instead of complaining about being beat on by juice, learn to use juice yourself to beat on your opponent.


tldr- It's fine, l2p

Nah homie. I played this game when it was first announced at PAX East, bought first day and have over 200 hrs in it. I never said juice was unstoppable. I have killed juicers. People are buying nothing but juice not upgrading not building turrents. Like I said one person should not be able to go in your base and destroy $1,000 worth of stuff, repeatedly. The 'suck less' argument is not valid. The game is based on unique classes working together, not buying Juice at $500 a pop, or Turrent taunting. I agree nerfing should be done with care. The game is still awesome and I plan on putting another 200 hrs into it. My gt is zabari

1000 dolars of turrets; a level 3 rocket? have someone play defense. the thing is, if juicers are giving you trouble, it is most likely because you play by yourself and dont have anyone to help rebuild/communicate with. thus, your problem lies with the other players, and not the game itself.

Instead of complaining that it's being used against you, you should look into using it yourself. Or do you die so much that you don't get juice?

I def. agree with the OP. Juice does make the game unbalanced. I hope that Uber does something about it in their next title update.

Maybe if you didn't teh suxxored at ringing people out you wouldn't have this problem.

I am wholeheartedly surprised that someone who mains Assassin does not want juice to be nerfed. I honestly never would have guessed.

Also, obviously anyone who complains about a mechanic must be unwilling to improve. That is clearly the case. Strawman FTW.

Cool story bro

u mad?