Strategic Zoom and the importance of the game camera

You're entire post is a straw man. Nice try though. I never suggested removing it. I wouldn't talk about toggling between the two if I didn't find it useful.

Wow, you're really outdone yourself here. This is perhaps the worst idea yet. PA is about large scale combat, adding required micro is the absolute antithesis of large scale combat. If that's what you want you might find starcraft 2 more to your liking.

Uh, sorry, a point-by-point analysis of exactly what you said is pretty much the opposite of a straw man. Maybe you should reread that definition.

You didn't though the first thing you said "this is just another anto-strat zoom rant". That is proof you made no attempt to read what I said since I never suggested removing it.

Not to the extent of SC2 obviously, but enough micro so that you have an advantage playing over someone using icons. Or actually... just balance the game so that there is no tactical advantage no matter what zoom you play at?

i suggest YOU go back and read what you wrote soopa

His analysis is a straw man because he can't understand how other gamers experiences games. Hence the straw man "I don't experience this game like that, therefore what you said is wrong because ".

Thats his argument in a nutshell.

So, you have 3 different people telling you that what you wrote does not communicate what you now say you intended and no one agreeing with you. Seems there are three interpretations here: Either we're all incapable of basic reading comprehension, you're incapable of communicating effectively, or you're back-pedalling as fast as you can and trying to sling some mud around to cover your retreat.

It's not a matter of being right or wrong it's a matter of the limits of text based communication.

The Straw Man fallacy is committed when a person simply ignores a person's actual position and substitutes a distorted, exaggerated or misrepresented version of that position.

That quote right there... thats a straw man.

AHAHAHAHA

Not a straw man since every response has been about DEFENDING STRATEGIC ZOOM. When every responder FAILED TO READ my post even since all responses began with "this is just another anti strategic zoom rant".

Ahahahahahah.
No.
A straw man is when you intentionally misinterpret someone's argument and then argue against that because it is weaker than their actual argument. For instance, if I were to say 'unit class X needs a nerf because it is too powerful for its mass cost' a straw man would be to argue that it's not overpowered because unit class Y is easily able to defeat class X. By ignoring the point about mass cost you aren't actually addressing my argument.

Nope, straw man requires intent. If you can't communicate clearly what you intend that's your problem, it doesn't magically mean replies to what you actually said rather than what you meant to say are straw men.

Edit: Also, actually most replies have been defending the supcom camera system as a whole. That logically tends to lead to a focus on strategic zoom as that is the definitive change from earlier RTS cameras and you seem to hate supcoms camera specifically rather than RTS cameras in general.

Except human minds dont work on enlightenment reasoning, someone can be correct and everyone will misinterpret that person NOT because that person has mis communicated but because the meaning is created by your mind. All of this begins with the fact that human communication is much more difficult to do when there isn't enough time to be thorough and internet forums just are the last place for solid communication.

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That means someone could come up with the most well articulated and thought out arguments and people would reject them because thats not how the human brain reasons.

Look its ok mate, why don't you just have another go at trying to explain yourself.

Ahh, I see, so it's not you, it's everyone else. Your explanations are all crystal clear, your arguments solidly supported, but shamefully all the rest of us are too stupid to understand. The minor detail that you are the first person I've seen here who's had so much trouble explaining what you really mean is pure chance.

Did I mention we have at least one guy here who's using google translate to post, along with a large number of non-native speakers?

You are bad and wrong.

I’d ask them to improve your tiny brain.

It has nothing to do with personal attacks, being stupid or smart. It has to with how the mind constructs understanding and meaning, when you read my words your mind has created its own meaning from your own mind which is not mine.

And YOU are bad and right.

How that works, I don't really know or care, but it's true.