If I understood it correctly Uber uses a already developed engine as a basis for Planetary Annihilation, and this engine is multi core optimised. So are there any experiences made with the engine so far about the performance of different CPU architectures and which does perform better. Because I want to get a new PC but I have limited funds, so no 6 core i7 for me But if I have a budget of about 160€ for the CPU that means I could get something like: ° AMD Phenom II X6 3.2 Ghz ° AMD FX 8150 3.6Ghz ° Intel i5-3450 3.1Ghz. They are alle about the same price but range from 4 to 8 cores. So will the per core performance be more important -> i5 or the amount of Integer cores -> FX or the amount of floating point cores -> Phenom II. So, how well does it scale with cores, and does it need integer or float instructions more? Can there any advice be given on that matter?
I may be mistaken but as I understand it Intel have won the CPU race conclusively, so Intel should always be a better choice.
If you're going to buy the Comp specifically for PA, you might want to tough it out until we get a better idea of the requirements, even thought they have the basics of the engine working, until more art assets, code and gameplay mechanics get properly implemented it will be hard if not impossible to accurately guess the requirements. Mike
I'd rather wait before buying a new PC. If you want a little more cheaper and better stuff as it should come out soon enough. Also we know nothing about how intensive PA will be or anything yet along those lines.
well when they said they use a already in-house developed engine I kinda thought they already have games released based on the same engine. Obviously the demands will be different, but probably similar... And I don't only want a new pc for Planetary Annihilation. My current laptop is kinda dying so I need a replacement at some point soonish... But with PA in mind I could adapt the PC setup .. @eukanuba you are mistaken. Yes Intel won the performance race. But only in regards to maximum possible performance. But as I said, I won't buy a 6 core i7-3960X for ~1000€ (~1200$ ?). So, when looking at AMD and Intel CPUs of the same price range, AMD does in fact compete quite well and, depending on the workload, sometimes wins or loses against Intel CPUs of the same price. If you can afford the best of the best. Sure, there is no way you don't buy an Intel I7. But if you don't then AMD CPUs may well give you more performance/price for your particular workloads. So no, Intel is not always automatically the better choice just because their best cpu is unchallenged.
The only other game they have is the Monday Night Combat series, and they're first-person shooter games, so they probably don't use the same engine. It's too early to talk about what computer to buy. You should definitely wait until you have the game and try it out on your existing system.
Existing system: Intel Core 2 Duo P7550 @ 2.26Ghz 4GB RAM AMD Radeon HD 4650 Mobile The CPU is a downscaled cpu not even with the full instruction set extensions available for the cpus of that time (like no Intel VT which is quite annoying in times) This system already struggled enough with SupCom... I don't think there is much need to test PA on this machine. Anything I buy now will be much better..
There are advantages with waiting; -The longer you wait, the cheaper parts get. -The Longer you wait, the more opportunity you have to save up more money for a larger budget. -The Cheaper parts get, the less money you have to spend OR you can get a better system for the same amount of money you can invest right now. -You will know the requirements for PA and can either A] Save money by either meeting or only slightly exceeding the requirements B]More wisely spend your money in the areas specifically needed. If you rush to get a computer now you risk; -Spending more than you need to. -Ending up with an insufficient Computer by the time PA comes out. Unless your current comp is in its death throes I'd wait, at least until we know more about the requirements. Mike
Well, that's the problem. I sometimes doubt my laptop will survive until next summer.. I am aware of the advantages of waiting, but as I said, I may need a new pc soonish anyhow, and if so, I'd like to get something as good for PA as possible without exceeding my budget. But I will try to wait as long as possible in order to get a as good system as possible for my 5 to 6 hundred € budged - won't ever be a high end machine i fear I just remembered that it will be client/server based. What exactly will be done by the client and what by the server? If the gameplay essentially gets calculated on the server and the client is a mere gui (unless playing singleplayer obviously) then I might just spend less on the cpu and more on the graphics card. I don't really ever play single player anyway, and in lan games with friends and siblings I can live with not hosting the game on my pc but let their pcs lift the heavy work..
Guaranteed that no matter which architecture they will be using, the game is going to be very CPU intensive. That being said, the i5 isn't a bad choice for processor on a budget, just make sure you get yourself 8+ gigs of RAM (it's so cheap nowadays) and a 64 bit operating system. Once you've got that under wraps put all the rest of the money you've got into a nice nVidia card.
I am a AMD fan, I might resort to a Intel CPU if that performs better for PA, but I will not buy a nVidia card! lol My first post was really in the hope of a Uber member reply that AMD cpus will do fine as they may optimise PA so much to multicore that the AMD FX can play out its architectural advantages.. So I hopefully don't have to go for the i5.. 8GB ram of course for the start, as it is ridiculously cheap (~33€/40$ for the 8GB) I may just go for the double amount because its so cheap. And then the best AMD graphics card I can afford with the money I got left. Unfortunately the HDD prices are still quite high currently ever since the tsunami back then...so just a single 1 or 2 TB drive
Oooh, forgot about sys. req. D: Hope my laptop will handle it fine, it's mid tier with an i7 core and a ati 5650 card, so I can play most games nicely, but some of the recent games have had insane requirements, and this still has a year to go to release :/ I really hope they have lots of options to modify graphic settings with. The greater choice we have, the more people can actually run the game, the more buyers. Plus I'd be happier (which I'm not ashamed to admit is the main thing I care about).
MNC / SMNC both use the Unreal Engine. Because of the way that engine works we're pushing the upper bounds of interactive characters possible. There can be as many as 200 active characters on screen at once in SMNC with all of the fodder, for MNC we had to limit it to around 100 as well as make some modifications to the engine to be able to get the game playable on the Xbox 360. The as of yet unnamed engine we will be using for Planetary Annihilation will be capable of several times more than that, hopefully several thousands of units. We already have the new engine running, but haven't done stress testing to see what kind of unit limits we might have for various platforms. Certainly our plan is to get the game playable on a wide range of hardware configurations. As mentioned by others, we're still some time away from having anything playable for this game, so I would suggest waiting as prices of computer hardware tend to have significant drops every 6 months or so as new components get released.
If I understand correctly, you can't use AMD and Intel processors on the same type of motherboard, not the ones you mentioned anyway
No, you can't use AMD CPUs and Intel CPUs on the same motherboard. Motherboards are designed for families of CPUs more specific than just AMD or Intel, so even two Intel CPUs that aren't nearly identical won't work on the same motherboard. However I don't think that was what was being asked. Those three CPUs were listed as being under price the author was willing to pay, and most modern CPUs have multiple cores built inside. AMD Phenom II X6 has 6 cores, AMD FX 8150 has 8 cores, and Intel i5-3450 has 4 cores.
