Should i even bother trying to upgrade this

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by emb4, June 6, 2012.

  1. emb4

    emb4 Active Member

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    http://i.imgur.com/q2Eju.jpg

    Shitty hp pavilian

    Amd athlon II 3.2 ghz quad core
    8 gigs ram
    Ati radeon HD 4200 integrated
    1 tb in the drive
    250w power supply

    I was thinking about saving up for a power supply and a card and replacing the stuff this thing came with. I dont care about maxing games full resolution at 100 fps, im just fine with high settings at 60 for most modern games.

    good or no? tips?
  2. thetrollingking

    thetrollingking New Member

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    Just get a new one once you get enough money. Since you're PC gaming, it will be so much easier to play. Think of playing on a resolution that isnt 600x480 @ world detail 1 :p
  3. emb4

    emb4 Active Member

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    yeah but i think the pc is fine except for the card/power supply
  4. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    Do you have a graphics card slot on that thing? It says integrated and I know there are some punk-*** manufacturers that don't put graphics card slots on computers.

    If you do then I'd just buy a new card/power supply.
  5. emb4

    emb4 Active Member

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    It has a vacant slot because mine is inside the motherboard. If I put a card in it it wil shot off the poopy integrated one
  6. donut7577

    donut7577 Active Member

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    It depends, has it had any prior troubles? Sometimes I swear HP makes their components out of cardboard and wires...
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  7. emb4

    emb4 Active Member

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    The problem I have is when I try to make it run games
  8. donut7577

    donut7577 Active Member

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    Might be better to just upgrade it then, as long as it doesn't have any standing troubles otherwise.
  9. HiipFire

    HiipFire Active Member

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    Get a new one. Seriously. or upgrade I don't really care.
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  10. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    Upgrade. It's cheaper and the rest of your crap is more than fine.
  11. whattteva

    whattteva New Member

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    Integrated is really never the way to go for any sort of 3D gaming, really.
  12. emb4

    emb4 Active Member

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    thats why im upgrading
  13. carryableyarn

    carryableyarn Active Member

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    Well, if you could just get a better graphics card that your power supply could support, just do that.
    Much cheaper than buying a new computer.
    Buying a new PSU and GC is still cheaper than getting a new computer.

    Just keep upgrading over time until you're at a point where you could buy a computer that outclasses your current one in every way.
  14. whattteva

    whattteva New Member

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    I think this is probably the best thing to do. You don't really want to spend too much to half-*** it cause you're just going to end up disappointed. I know I went that route a few times and got disappointed.

    Just get a decent card and save as much money as you can and then upgrade the proper way. Looking at your current specs, the graphics card really is your only weak link, everything else looks fine... well psu may be cutting it close when you use a stronger gpu, but a decent 400 W should be sufficient.

    Note that I put extra emphasis on the word "decent". It's cause wattage ratings are highly misleading. There are plenty of cheap "400W" PSU's that'll overload at only 200W.
    There is a fairly simple and reliable way to gauge PSU's though and that is weight. Usually, the crappier it is, the lighter it is and the heavier it is, the better quality it is.
  15. LennardF1989

    LennardF1989 Uber Contractor

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    I would indeed go with buying a new GPU and PSU. Check the Watts requirement for the GPU, add it to the 250W you already have and you know which kind of PSU you need (in any case, generously round up).

    I seriously recommend getting a PSU with cable management, there are so many cables now it's obnoxious to shove them in an empty corner - not to mention disturb air flow.

    Other than that, get a nice GPU. Brand to your preference, but be sure to take a trusty brand (in case of ATI I have good trust in XFX and Sapphire and new-guy ASUS is also great). You can probably get a away with a 150 USD card, but I would recommend just investing in a good one since there is nothing wrong with the rest of the machine.

    Really be cautious of Watt and Temperature, last year or so nVidia introduced a new line of cards which use a lot of Watts and become extremely hot (by design though), but I wouldn't want that in my case.

    Also, reviews and benchmarks: use them, for both the PSU and GPU. Don't go with one, check multiple, comparison benchmarks usually give you a good impression.

    Upgrading isn't simple, lol :p
  16. carryableyarn

    carryableyarn Active Member

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    It's a freaking hassle is what it is.
    TOO MANY FREAKING NUMBERS AND BRANDS AND STUFF!!!
  17. LennardF1989

    LennardF1989 Uber Contractor

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    Thats why most people don't bother and just buy a new PC, which is a shame because if you just ask help or investigate a little, you can save yourself quite a few bucks.
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  19. LennardF1989

    LennardF1989 Uber Contractor

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    What is your budget? That card is far below the 5850 I have and even that one is stuttering with some games.
  20. emb4

    emb4 Active Member

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    that of a 17 year old with a minimum wage job

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