As someone who plays a lot of class based games, tf2 in particular, it seems ridiculous to me that anyone can survive a backstab. seeing as the main attack of the assassin is the grapple it should be lethal from behind 100% of the time unless the enemy is juiced, this only makes sense. sometimes i will lunge and then grapple from behind to leave them with plenty of health to turn and attack me or run away with. this is not just a complaint, it is a balancing issue, if a gunner, tank, or assault can have that much health they become too hard to kill. too often i see one person with a score something like 36 and 4 and it's only because they have so massive an amount of health that no one, not even an assassin from behind, can kill them.
And isn't it only the tank that can survive a backstab, (katana) i know assault and gunner can survive dagger with gold armor.
i know about the endorsements, what i'm saying is that it shouldn't be able to save you from a backstab. front grapple, sure, shurikens and slashes, sure, but not a backstab and especially not a lunge+backstab.
i dont think any pro can survive a backstab (besides tank) .. if the assassin has the katana.. so just get that lol
The tank is definitely the only class that can survive the assassin's back grapple (with sword) without juice/overheal. I believe it requires passive 3 and at least silver armor. The tank can also survive a headshot with this, another thing that would OHKO any other class. This is what makes the tank unique, no way should it be taken away.
Agreed. I run a tank without armor. Even WITH passive 3, an assassin will kill me if she has a sword. I'm okay with this since my class has so many natural advantages vs the assassin, I don't mind letting her 1 hit me if she catches me unaware.
I feel like the slower characters should be given a handicap. I think it's stupid that the gunner is so big slow and cumbersome, but I can still be killed from a dagger from behind. It doesn't make sense to me.
i also agree that the only way to live through a backstab is to pay for it in offensive ability. people who run a tank with armor can survive headshots and stuff, but are too slow to get into combat and have too short a clip to finish a kill with too little fire rate and reload. people who run a tank without cannot survive headshots or fully upgraded assassinations. i fall into this catergory, but i believe i kill as many gunners with my supreme clip size reload and speed, as a armor-based tank kills in assassins and snipers. on the other hand, gunners still kill me if they manage to play their skills in better timing (i do half damage with primary fire, perform a charge, and then a death blossom. if they do a slam when they weaken me enough, and then followup better than i do, then they win simple as that) and assassins can kill tanks too if they simply catch one off guard enough to perform two slashes before a grapple. if i play assassin i usually soften a target up with throwing stars actually, and quick switch to a grapple (if its not a tank, i dont even need to do that, i just gotta slap another assassin or a sniper lol)
