What classes counter each other?

other then the tank countering assassin the rest is based on player skill.

Assuming that everyone had = skill there are way to many factors that come into play. for example.

Sniper at long range can kill any class very easily. at mid range more often then not they are toast. at close range it depends on if they can get there grapple off quick enough.

so as far as every class having a counter id say thats just not true.

Sorry, but anyone who's paying attention should know exactly how to avoid a camping Sniper, regardless of class. Also, if the Assassin is smart, she'll be able to take you out with shuriken spam before you're able to line up a headshot.

Oh Wallace

Really? Shurikens? Have you tried that? Because if a sniper moves even 1 cm to any direction they're useless, and if a clip hurts him without killing him he can just step into cover.

A sniper only needs one trap and stand on that trap to be unreachable by assassins, the other 2 can be placed at his base or at a turret.

While I play sniper assassins are really easy to kill, and I suck as a sniper. If she's killing bots I'll just shoot the bots, the explosion kill her in 2-3 shots.

Pre-spin for the win.

Any good sniper knows how to avoid a assassin's Shuriken's. If the assassin is smart such as gets stuck in a ice trap then there is a easy way to avoid a Headshot. Though cant say much for her body.

I assure you an Assasin can fill a sniper full of shurikens when they're aiming their sights down in the other direction before they'll turn around.

Especially at decently close range and with a full crit clip.

ur assuming im a shitty sniper. i can line up a headshot faster than she can finish her clip while jumping/moving soooo.....

Oh Greg

Which is exactly why I avoid Gunners when they're spun up.

If the Sniper goes into cover, then that gives the Assassin time to kill whatever bots are there and dash away. If the Assassin gets killed by bot explosions, it's because she's not paying attention or is just bad. Also this:

is exactly why Snipers don't stand right on their ice traps. Besides it only being of any use in that one very specific situation, of course.

We already know Tank beats Assassin and are not discussing it.

good tank > any assassin

Good assassin > noob tank

depends on the player

forum censored the word sh*tty. sniper is the only class that can headshot though so idk what ur thinkin

I thought you were saying Tank could railgun her to death faster than she can shuriken him. At any rate, I really doubt that you could headshot an Assassin in less than a second, which is how long it takes her to unload her clip with gold or silver RoF (and almost all good Assassins run it).

So you're saying that an assassin beats the sniper at long range?

Have you tried that and made it work?
I can't because MNC is lagging too much for me, but I don't think it will work because a good sniper is always moving just a little. And even if he's not moving, the sound of the cloak or the shurikens will make him notice you and start to smg you, and if he does that you're screwed.

you just shot yourself in the foot with the sniper: assassin SNIPER assault. so your saying that the sniper has only 2 class counters? so that means sniper is OP. oh yeah and assassins cant kill supports.

Ok im going to post what i found from experiments during crossfires
again endorsements can counter and make things difficult

Assassins: they have trouble killing assaults if they use the jetpacks alot or people that jump. Supports can have an advantage over them with the hurt beam but if they cloak it stops.

Tanks- they are the support killers and assassin killers... they run through alot of stuff and burn takes alot of damage. weak vs snipers due to headshots

Gunners- these guys are also support killers... destroying firebases
weak vs snipers
can kill assassins quick and keep them away with ground pound

Assaults: best for killing things mid range.. good vs assasssins if you stay in the air
weak vs snipers since flying makes easy targets

Support: with hurt heal beam getting away while your constantly moving and jumping makes good kills... if your playing assassins you can keep chasing them and hurting them but if they cloak your outa luck. They are weak vs tank and gunners since they cant handle the close range combat

Sniper- These guys are best killing slower moving classes.. if your good with headshots gunners and tanks are easy kills.. assassins and support are their enemies since close range isnt the best with snipers unless you play with traps. Still the support beam is their weakness as it heals the support and kills the assassin

No, I'm saying that an Assassin can make a camping Sniper next to useless by harassing him with shurikens, popping in and out of cover, and causing him to have to retreat to regain health constantly. Grenade launcher, mortars and railgun also do this, but they make for easier targets. Of course, this isn't an issue if a Sniper is actually pushing up and playing the game proper, but in that case he's vulnerable to backstabs, and he doesn't have many options for dealing with an Assassin up-close. Which is why Assassin counters Sniper.

Nope, you're wrong.

How much do you play assassin?

Enough.

I've played with Wallace. He is a competent player that generally knows what he is talking about.

The an assassin, especially with crit S-launchers, is very very effective at doing one of the following:
-Harassing/Killing the sniper
-Distracting/preventing the sniper from sniping.

Either one of these allows your lane to now actually spawn bots and build up a push. Its especially useful when you have a sniper of your own that is now free to take pot shots at their sniper who is dancing with the assassin.

And yes, I've played as an assassin very much, and have played with/against other competent assassins (Bolt, Rev, etc).