Can any class kill a gold armor with a grapple?

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  1. drunken feedle

    drunken feedle New Member

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    just curious if any character with a level 3 grapple can do this?
  2. scathis

    scathis Arbiter of Awesome Uber Alumni

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    Yes.
    Assassin back grapple on certain classes will kill.
    Any class that throws has an opportunity to ring out an enemy and then it doesn't matter.
  3. ITBlogger

    ITBlogger New Member

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    Yep, even with level 3 armor a Gunner will get killed by a full on back stab by an assassin and of course can still be headshotted by snipers. Kind of makes the level 3 armor endorsement a little bit underwhelming.
  4. Im Hudson

    Im Hudson New Member

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    Gold Armor is best used on the Assassin and Sniper, since it gives them DOUBLE their base HP. (100 base + 100 from gold armor). They still will die to back grapples, but they can now take twice as much damage as they normally could.

    A gunner has 200 base HP, and 300 with armor. He is 3x harder to kill than the unarmored lighter classes, but still vulnerable to headshots and backstabs. I'd say its underwhelming on the gunner, for this reason.

    A Tank with gold armor and full passive will have 200 base hp + 100 from rank 3 passive + 100 from gold armor, giving him 400 total. According to monday night combat's wiki, a tank CAN survive a non crit headshot with proper endorsements, but I've yet to test this. He'll easily survive any grapple in the game provided he is not rung out. I'll test what normal one shot abilities the tank can survive tonight.
  5. tlbww

    tlbww New Member

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    You mean just the Sniper and Assault right? Neither other classes grapples that I'm aware actually move the grappled player.
  6. iCatastrophe408

    iCatastrophe408 New Member

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    In my opinion if ANY class should get GOLD ARMOR it should be the assassin
  7. UberGunner

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    Gunners have a grapple that will throw people out of the ring. You never see it because it's complete crap. No one ever spends $550 on such a worthless skill.
  8. iCatastrophe408

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    That is because gunner is usually a farther range shooter. You rarely ever go right next to a gunner so why should he have a grab? I think they should change it but that is just me.
  9. Shammas

    Shammas New Member

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    Everyone always forgets about the rail gun grapple.
  10. iCatastrophe408

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    Ive never used the rail gun grapple before lol.. I might try that sometime to see what it does :lol:
  11. scathis

    scathis Arbiter of Awesome Uber Alumni

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    Where did you get your numbers? Are you guessing or did they come from somewhere?

    Grapple throw moves are:
    Assault level 3 Charge
    Sniper level 2,3 Grapple
    Gunner level 3 Grapple
    Tank Rail Gun Grapple
  12. Im Hudson

    Im Hudson New Member

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    http://mondaynightcombat.wikia.com/wiki ... dorsements

    Its a wiki, and as such its accuracy could be disputed, but this particular page has been constant throughout. The numbers have been constant for about a month now. If I'm spreading misinformation, feel free to edit the entry to something more accurate! :)

    I make it a habit to find any math craft sources for any game I play. Such as those available for the COD and Battlefield series at http://denkirson.xanga.com/
  13. scathis

    scathis Arbiter of Awesome Uber Alumni

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    Wow, those numbers are wildly inaccurate.
  14. Im Hudson

    Im Hudson New Member

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    Care to enlighten us then? Especially since the community is apparently wildly going in the wrong direction?
  15. scathis

    scathis Arbiter of Awesome Uber Alumni

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    Sorry, I can't. There are internal reasons for me not releasing the exact numbers.
  16. Ninja Wallace

    Ninja Wallace New Member

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    What about just the base HP or something similar?
  17. drunken feedle

    drunken feedle New Member

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    I was wondering mainly about frontal grapples with the other classes
    If i was a tank with gold health or armor can a sniper level 3 kill or assault level 3
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    not talking about ring outs but just plain grapples

    Assassin is the grapple l33t we all know ...
    but with the right combinations or armor or health does grappling even effect this is what im getting at?
  18. Im Hudson

    Im Hudson New Member

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    Tank with Silver armor and full passive can survive any grapple in the game.

    I'm not sure how this differs with lesser combinations of armor or lower ranks of his passive.
  19. drunken feedle

    drunken feedle New Member

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    gotcha this is what i was wondering

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