Since joining this forum, i only see posts talking about how you're supposed to push the lane, blah blah blah. There's more to it then just that, yeah, you need people to push or you won't win, but you also need defense, and you need to keep the enemy team at bay. I play as assassin, and i don't push the lane, while i'm reaching my destination i'll help my bots out a bit, but that's not my main focus. I take out pros, if you let pros live they get juice and EFF YOU UUP. I also take out turrets, good turret play changes games. But if everyone is pushing the lane, then each game is the same. My point is, everyone plays differently, and there's a plethora of good playstyles for each character, i've seen assaults play defense extremely well, same with sin's, it all depends what you're good at and comfortable with, not what everyone else does.
Sorry, but I think that you are wrong. I've played against plenty of assassins and I've never seen one use the playing style you've described and make a significant difference in the outcome of the match. An assassin that primarily goes after pros is an annoyance at best. I main a sniper, and the vast majority of assassin's I face use the tactic described here. The result is either they keep trying to kill me over in over, resulting in them dying over and over, or they realize they can't kill me and focus on the rest of the team. Either way, the result is that the enemy team just views the assassin as an occasional annoyance of getting randomly killed. However, assassins that push lanes first and foremost, that rip apart enemy bots, juice and then destroy every turret in a single juice, only killing pros that get in the way, these are formidable opponents. One or two assassin's that play like this can really turn the tide of a match. Some of the worst times I've been beat were by assassins like this, and I don't get beat that often.
I totally agree with you. I've noticed that a decent percentage of players in-game either are constantly rushing, kill whoring, or camping one chokepoint/spot the entire time. Personally I play a mix style, rushing with bots when it's necessary, pulling back to my teams defence line to hold off an attack, build/rebuild turrets, etc. Even as an Assassin I play defense when the time is needed. If you ever seen my play online you'll notice that I'm more defensive, I care for my team more than kills. Like you said though it totally depends on the player.
Actually every time i see a sniper i kill it, fast, i know what i'm doing, and pros are what turn the tide of a match, so if you keep pushing them back, they have a much harder time, i still do the whole kill bots juice up and wreck the place, i'm not an idiot.
There are plenty of snipers out there that have no idea how to play the class, just like there are plenty of assassins out there that are equally as unskilled. I guess by your original description I'm not sure exactly what your play style is. If you're an assassin that primarily goes for cloaked kills, then you're nearly worthless to your team regardless of your kill/death. However if you're killing bots, juicing, and then tearing apart pros then that's basically lane pushing. Although, from what I've seen and even tried out myself, targeting turrets, money ball, and bots primarily is a much more effective strategy for winning, but not necessarily getting a high or even positive kill death ratio.
Basically i focus on removing turrets, and killing jackbots but if i see a pro, i make sure i remove it from my sight, violently. I only get rid of slims/blackjacks if they are closer to my bas than my bots are to theirs
I believe you are correct. Although, you need SOMEONE pushing the lanes. If you want to avoid OT and the juice rush, you have to end the game sooner. Pushing the lanes is a must. Now, anyone who tell you that this class should be doing this or that just doesn't get it yet. If your on a team with the same people all time then yes, you might have to play a certain role all the time. But for the most part, as long as some players are pushing lanes and killing turrets, and others are playing defense and building turrets, your doing it right. On the other hand I've joined games where there have been 3 sins and 2 snipers. This is almost always going to fail against a more balanced team. But, I agree OP, there are more than one way to play any class. Tanks can clear lanes or stay in base and play D. Supports can do both, Assaults can do it all, Sins will be a lil more tricky because sin players are scrutinized more than any other class imo. But I have seen many different play styles for sin. And almost all of them work when a GOOD TEAM player is using that class. Point is, play the way you want as long as your contributing to the team. Being selfish and playing solo will hardly ever work, idc how LEET people think they are.
The idea that any class has a specific pattern they should follow every time they spawn is boring and flawed. Yes, some classes are better suited for certain tasks, but pigeonholing into some narrowly-defined role is not "learning to play." Flexibility is what's important, I say. For example, the Assassin is mobile enough that she can do any combination of pushing lanes, destroying bots, killing pros, taking down turrets, or hitting ejectors/bot spawns/the annihilator. In my opinion, anyone saying you should focus on X and nothing else needs to get more creative. Stifling a class with some GOTO 10 style of play might grant some success, but it's not going to be as fun, or get as many wins against a good, cohesive team. Besides, why play at all if you're going to play like a bot? As for my playstyle (as an Assassin), I'm not sure I could define much of a pattern. If a lane needs pushing, I push it. If I see a pro I think I can kill, I try to kill them. If I notice a teammate who needs a hand, I head toward them. About the only things I do without fail from map to map are go for the annihilator, and take down jackbots ASAP. Rev Rabies, if you and your team are having success with your style of play, more power to you.
You know all it takes is two blackjacks to down the Moneyball shields... This is what annoys the crap out of me. Players that go after the bots some of the time. If I see a bot, no matter where it is, I'm killing it. It really annoys me when we are starting to get overran everyone tries killing the pros first. If our shields are still up the only thing we should worry about are the approaching bots. The key to any and all classes is to always kill bots when you see them. Pros kills are optional. Why wait till the last second to kill the bots when you can rid the problem a lot sooner?
Killing a bot that's far from my base is very low on my priority list, and as Rolo said, so long as other people are doing that, that's good, bot's don't win games, pros win games, bots just oopen the door. And i don't feel i need the "more power to you". I'm not the best but i'm a pretty good assassin, my strategies work well for playing with random people who i can't communicate with
for assault all out pro killer, taking out bots in between kills, also destroying turrets wit the GL as it seems to destroy them.
But if there are no bots to take your shields down how are the Pros supposed to damage it? Also if there are no enemy team bots that means your bots have open lanes right to their base.
Yes they do. Turret are in their base and most Pros don't care about bots so there is a clear "bot line" to the enemy base. I can't even count the times where I see bots going face to face at the middle of the platform and other Pros just run by it. I don't even go for kills when I play. I just push my bots into their base and as they arrive I take out their turret. It only take two blackjacks to bring the moneyball down.
Yea, also depending on the difficulty of the other team I like to play around with them and annoy them, and I've just recently started helping my bots when they clash against the enemies' (but I've only played for about a week). And games go in my teams favor when I push lanes and stealth kill anyone threatening my bots. And just to help prove your point, there was this Assault on an opposing team scoring 33/22/5 (estimate), but they lost horrible both times because all he did was go for kills, his team wasn't too bad at killing either. I came out with an even K/D ratio once and slightly positive the other (10-15 kills), I had the most money, and I was main pusher of lanes/turret killer. (I play Assassin) But yea, if you're going against a good team it's best to push push push, and if team mates already are, defend them and your bots.
