Leaderboard cleanup

Well I could counter this argument very very easy but I will not due to not knowing who the @#$% you are XD.

Dbow is legit. I play with him/killen/BK all the time, and our games are always public. Anyone is free to come and go as they please, and in probably 600+ games I've never seen anyone split screen (like that is a glitch or something that should even be addressed), or just farm kills off a second account.

Most of the time we look for other West Coast high level/good players and add them in order to get more competitive games because there are not always full teams of 6 to play and most of us would prefer a challenge rather than mopping up PUGS all night.

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I feel the same way!

Thank you.

I've noticed inconsistencies as well, but it can't be proven to friends of his like iCatastrophe408 who weren't paying attention. Still, it's pretty obvious dbowill has farmed $$$/kills/wins. When I caught Fojib boosting the morning I passed him on the Crossfire Earnings leader board, all his buddies came in to defend him. They had evidence of him playing legit games, but I still saw him shoot up in earnings quicker than he could have through honest play.

Two points to consider:

1. dbowill had 465 wins for the past week, yet still earned a sizable portion of the Reach achievements. Despite MNC's player base shrinking considerably and taking time out to play another game, dbowill managed to win over two hundred more games than he did the previous week.

2. After the weekly stats were reset [early in the morning when it's hard to get into full games], I noticed he only had two wins but over $20,000 in earnings. $10K in a single game is a rare occurrence. Twice in a row at that time of the day is suspect. Even more telling, he was ranked at the bottom of everyone who had earned two victories. Someone farming kills in a splitscreen match would have a lower internal ranking than those who earned legitimate wins.

I'll take evidence from the leader boards over someone's word.

So every win is legit because he told you so, and you've only playing with dbowill recently?

Interesting. I played a couple games against you early Saturday morning. After losing, you quit halfway through the next match. Your defense [verbatim]: "Sorry I was only 1 trying bro. Team blows!" However, you weren't the best player on your team (by far). So much for your "I love playing people better than me" philosophy.

Someone who is honest 95% of the time can still be a cheater. Fojib also farmed earnings despite having hours of matches recorded online. Your anecdotes about dbowill do not explain the inconsistencies in his stats.

Regardless, leader boards are an indicator of who plays too much, not skill. I'd be happy if Uber removed them from the PC port considering how much controversy they've caused in the 360 version.

Wow seriously? Duude I admit I dont know what he did in past. But I will admit that sometimes I aint the best. & Ya that looks like something I would say.. I only say that usually when my team is stupid playing with randoms on my team getting spawn killed cause they are stupid & dont know how to get out & defend the base properly. But Its whatever I careless bro lol. Yeah Im going to have friends & im going to have foes. (Haters) Seriously go ahead & hate. Im not one to judge people on how they play anymore. Im not like that anymore. If I got something to say I will mute my mic. Its the point if anyone brags after I will give them my word of advice. That is all, & im sorry you feel that way. Again Im a nice person who expresses my feelings how they are as they come.

Even if the number of active players are diminishing, it doesn't take me longer than 30 seconds to find a game.

This isn't pure statistics, you do not take into account the following:

1. The players that Dbow plays with and Dbow himself have gotten better at the game, thus increasing the win ratio and percentage (if it is a team of us that is playing pugs, typically the game will be over in less than 2 1/2 minutes).

2. That Dbow and the players that he plays with have formed strats that have evolved as people learn their individual roles in a team game

3. That Dbow has found more high level players to play with, thus increasing the amount of time that he plays high level team vs pug, which results in very fast games.


Three weeks ago the people that I play with were simply not as good as they are now. It took longer for a win to occur on average, where now in a team vs pug matchup, it is expected to see someone go 37-6-1 or something of the like in a 5 minute game playing as a gunner or tank with a support or two and a team behind him.


Either way, believe what you want; if you have your little heart set on this then I mean really, you can have it

I've been in the top 20 on kills (minus the hackers) since day five. Dbowill can't say the same thing. One day he poofed his way to the top from the deep middle of the pack like several people currently at the top. Have I been watching the people near me in the charts? Yes I have. I've seen many of them get a near impossible number of kills during a 15 minute period. I took my best kill/time ratio and compared it to some of these guys numbers. I could imagine that someone could beat my rate, perhaps even double it. But when people are quadrupling that rate for hours then something is wrong.

I got MVP either two or three times when we played against Dbowill (cant remember how many games we had). I did the same thing against XXXscorpion's team, Xbeatdown's team and many others. It doesn't matter if we're playing scrubs or organized teams. The MVP is almost always mine. You may or may not know but MVP is not always awarded (I assume this is a bug); I lose the MVP far more often to this bug than the friends I usually play with. But know that my friends are rather good as a team. We call out targets and watch each other's backs.

You know what Dbowill and Xbeatdown have in common? They aren't amazing players. I'd expect them to be fantastic if they are really getting that many kills in public games.

Beatdown's numbers have been as fishy as Dbowill's at one point or another. I think my teams been beaten about 10 times. If I recall two of those teams were above cheating.

There's a post somewhere on the forums about list your best game. From the last time I looked, no one had posted a score of more than $8500 from one game (approximately). So what are the odds that dbowill had two games in a row where he got $10,000 from each?

Like I said he's just not that impressive. When you play him you think.... yea he's a booster. Maybe if he spent more time shooting at active enemies he'd be better.

Are you aware you can't randomly fall into someone's private match where they are farming player two? If there was a weekly kills filter we wouldn't be having this discussion. Everyone could load up the game and look and say... yea he's a cheater.

It seems as though dbowill's friends are saying I don't see him cheat so I know he's not cheating; why would I bother looking at the leaderboards?

And yet you that clam cheating still won't come and play.....hummmm... you say that you have played Dbo (and more then likely me also sense we play together all the time), and that he (we) is not that good, but you won't specify who you are to back up your accusations. Look kids, you need facts to back up what you say and the leaderboards are not always up to par in real time but I assume you know this sense you clam to have this infinite knowledge of how it works down to the math of k/d and money per game. Step up, or drop it and quit crying on Uber forums.

*Yawn*

It's like I've seen this all before.

Anyway Dbowill shot up there rather fast however while I still cared I could easily stay ahead of him on the leaderboards for earnings/wins.

Aspence doesn't farm kills, he plays mid gunner and just murders everything around. All there is to that one.

To get those wins/$$$, you must keep searching for a game that you can get an easy W on or something, because I was the Tank that killed you on Steel Peel a half hour ago that made you quit out immediately.

I don't doubt that at all. I've been quitting out of laggy matches all morning. I was thrown repeatedly into the same Steel Peel match 5 times in a row until I got a new one and think about it for one second, would one person killing me make me quit out? If I only played games where I never died I wouldn't be high up on the leaderboards. Use your head.

I would imagine joining a game and getting killed 10 seconds later in your own spawn would usually be frustrating and can make some people quit.

I was with Scorpion throughout our searches for non-lag fest hosts and most likely told him to search for a better connection during that specific session. Haters gonna hate I guess.

You guys also need to release these leaderboards don't update as quick as the big company games. It updates you but as for everyone else it lags. I've been seeing this for the past week. I've been studying the boards really hard. I will admit there will always be argument who is the best & should be at top. I will also admit I want that #1 spot also. But I know with all these hackers & boosters it wont happen. Also when people argue like you guys are. I find this just to be ridiculous & look right now & now the past. Just forget what happened & see if those boards change. Cause it is still possible to get #1 etc if everyone plays legit. Yeah you gotta play a F load but it can happen. I'm not taking anyone's side or anything. This is how I feel & this is how I believe it should just go down to stop this non-sense.

At least three people now have called notice to his rise.

Does Aspence even play anymore? I think he didn't want to compete against more dedicated boosters. He was boosting but he may be playing legitimately now.

Ive done some studying & I believe Ubergunner is right about dbowill. I looked closely at what he does & how he plays etc. I will also say whom should be there & who shall not.

I've played with and am friends with most of these players. Scorpion, Fojib, Spence, Beatdown are legit. I've played against Patch a couple of times and murdered him, so he has rage quit every game after. I beat Dbowill 1 game and he was complaining a ton in the post game lobby, but I've never seen him afterwards. I think most of the high-ranked players just try to find games against worse players and cash in while they can, and play a LOT.

The people you have named are legit. I studied them & they seem to be legit. DbowiLL does play a F load. But he has boosted when the game came out & does play like a B@#$!. He does play with some good people but not good enough. Whom also ive been investigating. I sent a message to the leaderboard clean up dude on what I think. I know a few have, some I am not sure about but I will continue it. If you wanna know whom I think is boosted or hacked PM me & ill gladly show you whom I think is not legit.

Most of the time it works fine for me. I've noticed the lag as you describe only when shows your stats for the kills/earnings/wins scroll and none of your friends' scores.

Don't worry, the new booster on the block gave it a rest after falling to 4th or 5th (or something like that).

It would be nice if they could find a way to remove stats from private farm fests. Until then it's not going to be possible to pass Dbowill. If anyone gets close he will probably just farm out another 4,000 kills.

I'm not really playing for a spot on the leaderboards; I'm playing because I like the game. But I haven't played anything besides MNC since it came out. I'm rather comfortable with my place on the leaderboard considering I never farmed kills or wins. My stats suggest I know what I'm doing and my friends seem to think I'm pretty good. That's good enough for me.

Patch always plays support and if he's playing by himself you and your team will murder the crap out of him. Any team vs a single player will do that. You are now the fourth person to suggest that Dbowill is not as good as his numbers would indicate.

Shammas, remember that someone who is playing fair right now might not be playing fair all of the time (or in the past).