getting sick & tired of all the threads & posts degrading...

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat 360 General Discussion' started by monmaker, September 2, 2010.

  1. monmaker

    monmaker Active Member

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    I'm getting sick and tired of all the comments and threads degrading the Assassin class.
    I'm tired of seeing the posts saying that all it takes for an assassin to get a kill is a button press. BS. Assassins... GOOD assassins have to maneuver themselves into the right spot, without being seen or heard, in order to get a successful assassination. hell, we have to spend $550 just to get our katana in order to turn most of the back grapple's into a OHK, and even then, in a lot of cases it's still not a OHK, and then you have to deal with assaults flying, and tanks and gunners jetpacking and catching you aflame, and snipers and supports and other assassins bunny hopping and Lord help you if there's any lag.
    as for the people complaining about the assassin being able to cloak, lets give the tank, the other CQC class, the same amount of armor as the assassin and see how long they stay alive, hell lets give ALL the classes the same amount of armor.
    the duration of the blinding effect from a smoke bomb is laughable.
    seriously the amount of people degrading the assassin because "all they do is grapple" is crazy, the sniper and assault have ridiculous grapples that are worse then the assassins in alot of cases, and require less "skill" to execute.
  2. Krabbster

    Krabbster New Member

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    wait. people are saying the assassin is good?

    Getting kills with the assassin is based entirely on the unawareness of your foes.

    about the only thing this pro can do is reliably kill unguarded turrets, but any pro can do that given enough time.

    she can grapple jackbots, and get around the map quickly. that's about it.
  3. monmaker

    monmaker Active Member

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    Fixed
  4. Lagoon7

    Lagoon7 New Member

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    She is good if used right.

    She is tied for number 1 bot destroyer with tank, tank kills them slightly faster but assassin has more manueverability to close in on the waves faster.

    She gets juice rediculously fast, and when juiced can destroy all the towers in an entire base.

    She has one of the best bot summons.

    She is good for taking out specific problem causing targets. Like that popular (and effective) gunner + support combo falls to pieces when you take out the support.

    Also best for quickly nabbing the annihilator, seeing as she can do it while cloaked and has the highest manueverability of any class.

    BTW you can reload slash into the middle platform on Grenade III from the top floor outer ring on either side. Whereas other pros have to hunt down and buy a jump pad.
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    Krabbster New Member

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    fixed.

    she does have an excellent bot summon. most of the other things you listed fall under the category of "getting around the map quickly" which is the important plus of the assassin. i did make light of it to contrast from the original post.
  6. Lagoon7

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    Oh i see.

    idk, the only balace problem i have with MNC is sniper's freeze mines/grapple making him the strongest close range combat class with the strongest grapple (poor assassin).

    Oh, and the fact that hacked firebases are a little insane when put in the care of a good support. But that one has more to do with bad random public teams then with balance issues.

    You know your team is bad, when you got both lanes with enemy firebases in them right outside your base and your the only one trying to get rid of them.
  7. monmaker

    monmaker Active Member

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    Hell, i've been noticing that if it's a lvl 3.3 firebase, smoke bomb doesn't even effect it
  8. UberGunner

    UberGunner New Member

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    Ten extra seconds to look at the ground while invisible will keep you from running into sniper traps. I avoid them all the time as a gunner, but I still hit the ones that get placed in blind spots. You however, with a nice jump power, can avoid these traps while everyone else cannot.

    Remember.... as an assassin you have the least amount of health. Make sure you play accordingly.
  9. Lagoon7

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    Well thats just common sense, but the underlying problem is that snipers have a rediculously massive advantage over assassins in close range combat due to the freeze mines and his grapple.

    A good sniper can easily use two mines to make it impossible for the assassin to approach him without sucking on one, even via smoke jump.

    Even if you do get close and he doesn't have any mines, if that sniper has his back to the wall and has silver/gold armor endorsement, your gonna lose the grapple fight 100%. Your frontal grapple doesnt kill him, his kills you even if you have gold armor endorse and fully overhealed by a support.

    Hell, he can kill you if you get freeze mined without even using the grapple, he can flak + SMG you easily.

    He beats tanks and assassins at close range combat, always.

    Unless the sniper is newbie ofc.
  10. OptiMAT

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    Like, not to be rude but I'm pretty sure everyone else is sick of the endless stream of posts regarding how much skillz it takes to be an Assassin and how everyone else must suck because they can't use Assassin and how it's going to destroy the game because Assassins are nerfed in the patch.

    I'd much rather everyone just shut up about assassin full stop. There's no need for any class to have as much attention as Assassin gets; almost every thread now becomes a matter of who's the better player, the Assassin or the non-Assassin. There are other topics of discussion regarding the game.

    Nothing personal.
  11. DelVega

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    Everyone? No, I'm not. You are free to speak for yourself, but, don't try to speak for everyone.

    Just shut up about the assassin?

    You can always give constructive input if you like. Other than that no one is making you join the posts. You can always just leave. lol.

    And I see that you favor assault. Of course you like the idea of an assassin being nerfed. Assault get assassinated. lol.

    And after saying "You're getting sick of it" and You want assassin talk to just shut up, Yes you are talking it personal.

    So why don't you want people on a game forum, to have an open forum discussing the game? This is how people can inform Uber of what they want.
  12. OptiMAT

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    This isn't an open forum about the game. It's an open forum about the Assassin.

    It's funny how you mention adding something constructive, too, because most people that try to usually get every Assassin on the forum then posting about how they must be wrong because Assassin is so weak at doing whatever they just said. lol.

    I dont care either way if Assassins lose the ability to cloak after a Grapple. Back Grapple I'm dead and front Grapple 9 times out of 10 the Assassin goes down shortly after. Beyond that I can count the amount of times I get Grappled in a match on one hand, for the most part. If that means I play with 'bad assassins' then okay, that's true. Most of them are. lol.
  13. Lagoon7

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  14. Amaranth

    Amaranth New Member

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    Remember, kids, the Assassin's grapple is mapped to the "win" button. Just press it and everything dies instantly. No skill needed.
  15. monmaker

    monmaker Active Member

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    Sorry, i usually try not to laugh at peoples ignorance, but i sometimes can't control it.

    Fixed and expanded
  16. Amaranth

    Amaranth New Member

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    I'm glad you can laugh at yourself. At least, I hope that's what you're referencing, given your ignorance of the actual intent of my post.
  17. Lagoon7

    Lagoon7 New Member

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    This is win.
  18. monmaker

    monmaker Active Member

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    Arigato :mrgreen:
  19. obscurement

    obscurement New Member

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    As much as there's the "OMG I HAVE TEH SKILLZ" countering that with Amaranth's post of "Assassin's take no skill to play" and many other people's comments of "OMG YOU AREN'T PLAYING IT RIGHT NOOB YOU SUCK WHY ARE YOU PLAYING" makes those of us who really enjoy playing Assassin kind of pissed off.

    I don't disagree that the Assassin conversation is getting a bit insane, but it all stems from the patch up date. From your sig, I'm assuming you play mainly as an Assault. How would you feel if the Assaults weapon damage was going to be lowered and have your flight time shortened and your clip reduced? You'd feel like it would severely limit the character you really like, yeah?
    Well, it's even worse then that for the Assassin.

    We have a right to vent our opinion on this, Uber was asking for opinions about the game in general. When we, en masse, voiced our opinions people started telling us we suck because we were voicing a viable opinion based on our experience the counter arguement became "You suck, stop sucking and everything will be fine". That has a tendency to get under people's skin and that's where the rhetoric became redundant, annoying, and not productive.
  20. Amaranth

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    Yeesh. Make the most ridiculous argument possible, and people still take you serious.

    I thought the "win" button was a dead giveaway.

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