Assassin complaints about Snipers...

Is it me, or is there a surge of complaints by assassins against the snipers? Either they are complaining that they can't "counter" the freeze trap or the snipers upgraded grapple is too strong. Just wondering if I am the only person finding this extremely funny.

On a side note, the more I play this game, the more I am liking it....especially when, as Assault or Sniper, I grapple and throw a Pro off the map..it always makes me smile.

It seems there are lot of complainers out there. I mean come on, it is supposed to be a fun game!

Well smart assassins know not to go for only kills and instead focus on bots and turrets. I have heard so many people complain about my freeze traps and I always tell them in the post game lobby to focus on their roles instead of kills. They usually rage after I say that.

I'm sure they take that criticism, constructive though it is, very well.....

Aw it's ok TC, you can continue to camp your corner with your 3 freeze traps. Better not move that left thumbstick around!

Typical.. a Sniper complaining that Assassins are complaining

Umm..not really, but nice try. I only recently started messing around with the sniper...I usually roll with Assault. I noticed several threads this weekend with Assassins complaining that smoke bombs should disable ice traps and that another where someone was complaining that their grapple was too strong. Let's face it, the assassin is the most abused class right now, with support not far behind. Any assassin that doesn't OHK is like "OMG, cheater" or thinks that something should be changed.

Now, this in not ALL assassins....I have played against many good ones...and I have played against a load of bad ones. ...and granted, it is likely a small minority that complain.

FYI: I don't use the ice traps very well (still getting the hang of it), but I don't need to when 80 percent of the assassins think that the cloak makes you completely invisible and are shocked when, as they approach me, they get "9 Ironed" off the map. Oh, and trying to insinuate something about the way I play doesn't make my initial post incorrect.

One more note: it should be duly noted that while I may be complaining (if you wish to call it that) about several threads where others (...not necessarily all of the blame is the Assassins) are making arguments about one thing or the other, you will not see ONE post by me where I am making any case that ANY class be nerfed in any way. The game is well balanced and I have yet to see any situation or team configuration is invulnerable. Typically, it is about teamwork and 2 or 3 individuals working well together can absolutely wreck the other team if they don't know what they are doing.

You can get 3 freeze traps?

Assassins and Snipers hate eachother with a passion. I'd say that Uber did a damn good job.

I think its kinda funny since this is one of the first games that the Invisible Rogue/Assassin class doesnt roll the Sniper class. In fact its usually the other way around. Nothing feels better than 9 ironing an assassian stuck in my trap off the map.

I think that stabbing a cocky sniper in the back and have him bitch to his teammates is up there, too.

For the record, I'm neutral.

yes, which makes it more annoying.

First Muskrat, I think Bambam Bm was being sarcastic when he said,

To the main point though, the Sniper having a stronger grapple than the Assassin would be like the Assassin being better had OHK headshots then the Sniper. It doesn't make sense. The traps thing is a bit crazy too, because all the other classes have a counter for the traps, EXCEPT the Assassin. Before you say, "just jump over them", it's a lot easier said then done. Especially if you're going against a really good Sniper.

Now, I can't speak for all Assassin's but when devs are asking "What can we do to make things better" and "What do you think about [x] in the game" or for opinions in general, we're just giving constructive, asked-for feedback. I don't think anyone is saying "the game sucks [bleep!] you guys!" If they are to hell with them, they don't have to play. But don't be hatin' for an honest response to a question freely asked. I think it's really great that Uber is putting themselves out there and trying to connect with the fans and community.

Well some of us are trying to be helpful, others are just internet trolls.

Can't wait for the Shuriken Launcher Scoping for headshots to even the playing field, they have a stronger grapple than assassins, we should be able to get 1-hit headshots? am i right

I only think of what to do about the trap since AoE skills can snuff'em but the assassin's smoke bomb doesn't. Really, most ideas boil down to either jump over them (risky) or use the shuriken launcher (not guaranteed). Though to be honest, a full clip of crit shurikens from cloak 3 will surprise most snipers.

If I approach a sniper and he's purposely baiting me though, I just back off. A real assassin in real circumstances doesn't risk something that isn't as much in his favor as possible.

On a side note, I don't play with headphones and I can hear the cloak noise really clearly, unless of course the assassin is making the mistake of lingering too long. I play assassin too, so I generally lunge from cloak and run if I missed the grapple.

This would be awesome

^This is truth.^

This is a forum that is intended for that purpose. Discussing ways to make a great game better. (and I do mean a great game!)

For those of you claiming that the assassins are "complaining", how about focusing on what input has been given and discussing its merit. To simply discredit someone without evaluating whats been said is pretty low. If you agree or disagree, then just acknowledge that you do with supportive reasoning. Otherwise your just a blow against the MNC community.

On the topic, I'll am one of the individuals who posted about the two classes. In short, I generally feel that all the classes given the correct skill should be able to take out any other class. The assassins simply does not have a means to disable a trap.

Thus I murder assassins as a sniper. Not because I've more skill then they, But because they're the only class not given an ability to disable traps. Although it's nice to have a few free extra kills, I know that is not fun for the guy I killed simply due to a game imbalance.

It should always be about skill. For example: As an assassin, I am mindful of tanks. If I see one destroying my teams turrets, I'll first hit him at range to lower his health before I lunge and go for the grapple and kill. Although his class had the advantage, my skill and quick thinking enabled me to help our team. (and that feels great)

When it comes to assassins and traps, there is no skill involved, they can do nothing about them. Thats just not fun. "Oh look, a sniper shooting our money ball while my teams busy fighting. Quick, harass him from a distance with shurikens. (no, he's better at range then me) Well, use stealth and go in for the up close assassination. Since your like the bomb diggidy up close right. (yeah but, I'll get frozen in a trap.) Well for those traps just.... You know... Try the.... Yeah your right, we lost." lol

The reason I fell in love with this game is because each class was unique and fun with a depth that required you to learn and get better to win. It feels great defeating an enemy because I was better, reacted faster and/or smarter.

Again its an awesome game and i'm addicted to it. I was just excited to get on the forums because I had a constructive idea I felt would make it even better! My bad. lol

Anyway, super scoping OHKO headshots with the shurikens would be sexy. lol. I'm sure that would make everyone happy. lol

I posted this possible solution in another thread:

Instead of the useless flashbang effect that doesn't make sense anyways (yeah, instead of grappling that guy right next to me, lets flash him and jump away)... I was thinking that using smokebomb could give you 3-5 second immunity to movement and skill inhibiting effects.

By immunity i mean anything that happens thereafter, if you charge into a freezetrap/shaveice like a tool, you deserve your freeze/slow.

This way if an assassin would like to ambush a sniper, the sniper still has warning (hey, smokebomb just went off nearby, all my freeze traps just went off and there is a bunch of dustclouds approaching me) but the assassin can actually fight a good sniper.


The reason i think this issue needs to be adressed is that one of assassin's main jobs is to get rid of key targets (of course, bot/turret clearing too) if an enemy team has two snipers pinning down the lanes and the area is crawling with enemy bots and pros, the assassin might be called on to try to take them out.

However good snipers can 100% shut out any assassin at close range, easily. Only thing you can do is throw shurikens at them... and, uh... sniper rifle vs. shuriken long range match GO!

*BOOM Headshot!*

Anyways, at close range Sniper > Assassin. Sadly the truth.

Gotta give props to DelVega for actually reading the thread about complaints unlike most people, and have constructive thoughts on the topic with a reasonable discussion.