Dear snipers:

Dear snipers,

Are you aware that you make the game suck?

Do you enjoy that?

Well.

I was playing a Japanese server as I tend to do.
A long-time friend named kuroh was playing Sniper.

As a friend, I am trying to be as unbiased as I can.
But with his 28 ping his Sniper was about as annoying as I could stand.

5 matches in a row I was not on his team and his Sniper annoyed the **** out of me.
I didnt say anything of course.

After the match I privately messaged Punky on Steam and told him I was tired of kuroh. He agreed.
In fact he left the server because of him, even though we won every match. Sniper makes the game annoying whether winning or losing.


Now I was playing one friend down and against a purely annoying class.
I left as well.



Look. kuroh is a friend in Japan. One of the few I have.
I was trying to be as nice as imaginable while he played Sniper, but even though he was a friend it was enough for both myself and another mutual friend to just leave the server.

Now imagine that, but instead of facing an actual friend, imagine facing a random guy.
We were pissed-off going against a friend. Imagine how pissed-off anyone else feels playing against a random dude.
This is definitely not good for the game.



But, not to be selfish, I know that it is not just about me (the Sniper victim).
Snipers would also feel cheated if their class got nerfed suddenly.
I want kuroh and [6*] Tiblolan to have their fun as well.

But as it is now, only Snipers are having fun.
I am hoping Uber Entertainment can find the solution so that it is fun for both Snipers and their victims.
The charging method mentioned in another topic is a good place to start.


L. Spiro

I've got to admit. It tickles a bit every time I hear that ding.

I do admit the sniper could use some sort of nerf, but the truth is, the thing that defines the sniper, is also the thing that makes him OP, Headshot. Remove it, and you might as well remove the class.

You could also try outsmarting instead of crying. Add Myst and let the bastard teach you the way of the ninja gunner, he's a horrible player, but GOD DAMMIT I CAN'T HIT HIM!


L. Spiro

Well....
I'm breaking this game a bit... I'm trying to be a fair sniper without upgrading skills (1 trap , weak flak , weak grapple).

But lately I have bad aim... I don't know why....

I actually do quite well against most snipers, and make them cry more often than not. I still find them highly annoying though. The biggest concern for me is how much hell they give to other players and the general dropping population of the game.


I'm not actually saying that snipers are overpowered, which is a tricky subject. Comparing classes of all equal skill level, it depends on what that skill level is. At all low skill levels, the sniper is utterly horrible and useless. At very high skill levels (not talking bot-level, but reasonable human levels) I'd say the sniper does become overpowered because it reaches a threshold where the skill of other players just doesn't matter.

Don't know about that spiro guy and his japanese snipers because I've heard asians are insane at videogames, but I'm yet to see anyone who can headshot properly so I don't care tbh. Verden and Tiblolan may be lucky at times but it's not even remotely as annoying as a random headcrab or a backstab. Damn backstabs, assassins insanely OP with that right click I win.


L. Spiro

^This owns

give heavies back our jetpacks and i won't give a **** about the sniper anymore to be honest

Call 123 321 555 Assault line. Sniper rape assured, just for 5Kg of bacon and 15 churros per hour.

W. Ilder

Snipers are annoying.

L. Spiro

Funny thing is I've never played sniper because I am so afraid I would only be able to attack bots and turrets.

Funnily enough, that's a perfectly viable way of playing Sniper. The explosive rounds trivialize waves of breach bots, and full-powered Flak is a decent turret-breaking tool.

Yes, and yes. I enjoy watching the opposite team rage(lolhackusations) and start turtling.

If anything, being suppressed by a sniper is a good thing, it will teach you to play smart(er) against the sniper, I love it when I'm getting suppressed by fellow enemy snipers and enemy pros that know how to flank/juke/use terrain to their advantage.

*waves* hi verden, nice sniping against u a few days ago.

I don't play the PC version, but did they give the sniper a EMP round that does huge mortar-like damage to turrets? His flak only does bursts of damage to turrets that is well within range of heal-able.

The point is that I'm not good at aiming for the head.

My aiming is not crap but I'm not good enough at sniper to have good killing power as sniper.

Snipers only annoy me on maps that don't offer a lot of flanking potential. For instance on Lazor Razor I don't have any problems with Snipers even as the fat classes like Tank/Gunner due to the large amounts of cover available.

But on Spunky only the Assasin can really get near them - especially if they have a forward turret up which will shut down an Assault harass. In addition they prevent you from basically doing much of anything in the middle of the map - basically turning the game into "stay on your side of the map or get bodyshot to death". That's what I believe OP is complaining about.

Oh. Well, I just looked up the nerfs, and I can see why.

The sniper only has 4 rounds? I know snipers on PC are better at sniping, but a not-so-good sniper only gets worse with these kinds of nerfs.

They should nerf things only better snipers can do, like headshot. They already don't kill overhealed heavies and armored tanks, so why not make them do even less damage. Just 2x bodyshot damage instead of 5.

a clip size of "only" 4 doesn't matter much, since sniper has a rather quick reload speed

with gold RoF and bronze clip size, he gets 5 chances for a headshot in under 3 seconds, with no kind of recoil or zoom-out in between attempts

Who doesn't love ruining peoples days over the internet?

Not-amazing snipers won't get 5. Matter of fact, if they use an xbox controller, and I have a feeling some of them do, then they might get 1 every clip if they are good on the XBox version.

Do you say they don't deserve to play sniper because 10-20 others do get clips worth of headshots? Also, how in hell does a sniper on the PC push bots? Did they finally snap, take bots out of the PC, and make crossfire into Team Deathmatch?

Anyway, I simply liked the comment about killing turrets as sniper. Maybe snipers should be bolt-action. They would be useless, but since the nerf-stick is out, at least it would be cool, I always liked CoD Classic and the Mosin Nagant.