Support juice - now what?

Discussion in 'Monday Night Combat PC Discussion' started by Col_Jessep, March 23, 2011.

  1. Col_Jessep

    Col_Jessep Moderator Alumni

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    What's the best way to use a Support's juice in your opinion. If the moneyball is down it's obvious. But what is the best use when you are somewhere in the middle of the map? I usually like to take down turrets with juice but that's not very effective with the Support - or am I wrong?
  2. d-roy

    d-roy Active Member

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    Using the hurt gun with Gold RoF is pretty damn effective against turrets with Juice.
  3. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    Gold RoF, lock onto a turret and hop around like a loony so you can't be grappled and the turrets have a harder time of hitting you. If done right you could kill two level 2 rockits and a few Pros.
  4. Col_Jessep

    Col_Jessep Moderator Alumni

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    Nice, thanks guys. How about hacking an enemy turret while juiced? Can you survive the punishment of a L2 or 3 RockIt while juiced or do I need a distraction?
  5. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    You can technically survive it but their fire will keep knocking you back if they are not distracted. The best way to hack an enemy turret is during it's building/upgrading phase.
  6. Col_Jessep

    Col_Jessep Moderator Alumni

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    Damn, you have to be very sneaky to get to a turrets that's upgrading. And then you don't even get the money from it, right?
  7. WhiteHawke

    WhiteHawke New Member

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    I would use the opportunity to kill a group of players. The shotgun will one-shot almost anything when juiced, and you are fast enough to catch almost anyone. I know you can hack an unhacked lvl 2, but I'm fairly sure you won't survive a lvl 3. The problem with hacking is that it's easy to stop.
  8. DeadStretch

    DeadStretch Post Master General

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    Not only do you gain no money from the turret but the player who last built/udgraded it will get any kill that turret makes.
  9. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    Hacking shaveices has to be one of the most fun things I can think of in this game. Juice killing everything BUT the shaveices leaves that aoe beauty for your teams exploitation.

    This needs fixed.
  10. MLGIntervention

    MLGIntervention Active Member

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    Supports juice is good for pushing the other team back and gaining map control.
    If you wont to hack into a turret best way is have another support healing you while doing this.
    Destroying turrets is not the supports job that would be assassin/gunner/tank. But if they are not doing it hurt gun/airstike works.
  11. hostileparadox

    hostileparadox Well-Known Member

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    It depends on your situation.

    Shotgun while juiced is best used for:
    (In order of importance/effectiveness)
    Moneyball
    Pros
    Jackbot
    Survival (About to die)
    Bots

    H/HGun while juiced is best used for taking down enemy turrets.

    Make sure you have Gold or Silver RoF on your pro to make both the HHgun and the shotgun effective.

    An advanced Support Strategy is to sap enough health from the turret, drop an airstrike, move on to the next turret, A/S destroys first turret, sap health from second turret, A/S, run away, turret destroyed. This technique helps to shave off maybe 1-3 seconds versus just juicing up for turret destruction.

    Hacking turrets takes too long in serious games.
    Usually get spotted and killed before you finish. I just do it for teh lulz, never in a serious match. ;)
  12. Col_Jessep

    Col_Jessep Moderator Alumni

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    Combining juice with airstrikes is a good idea, every second counts... :D
    I guess other than that I'll have to use my trusted shotty.
  13. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    I have to say, I prioritize players in the base over turrets while juiced. Killing turrets becomes easy for my teammates so long as the base is empty, and I usually have enough time left over to get a turret kill(two with airstrikes).
    When I'm done juicing I hack a shaveice if it's available. Everyone should be dead at the end of the juice rush, leaving the shaveice open for 1337 HAX.
  14. thebabelfish

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    Depends on my teammates and the situation. If we've got a gunner who's good at taking down turrets and the opposing team is bunched up, it's shotgun time. If there's a 3.3 rocket, three airstrikes and the heal/hurt gun (if there's a support healing it, he gets shotgunned first.)
  15. Shurryy

    Shurryy New Member

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    Hacking turrets with juice available:

    Go close to turret. You know you will be at the risk of dying and this is pretty much suicidal.

    Start Hacking.
    HP lower than 25%
    Trigger juice.

    Just bought you some more time.
    And you can trigger juice while hacking, so it shouldn't be a problem unless some pesky assault, tank, gunner, assassin, support, or sniper is nearby to grapple/charge/grapple/charge/grapple+charge/grapple/Blow You away/grapple you! :3
  16. hostileparadox

    hostileparadox Well-Known Member

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    Meh, shaveices deal no damage and the enemy pros quickly take them down with their combined power. Since you get no money for hacking it, or anything it does, it just puts me at risk for very little reward. I only bother hacking rockits or Lazer Blazers.
  17. arseface

    arseface Post Master General

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    This is one of the reasons I only hack shaveices, the other is that it's safer and the other team becomes cannon fodder for gunners/tanks while it survives.
  18. Snipen8r

    Snipen8r New Member

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    I almost always hack rocket or laser turrets. My technique is to escort bots in get to the closest turret and immediately drop a firebase then let the juice go and start hacking away. Bots keep the turret busy if it kills the bots it will attack the firebase before it attacks me. After the firebase is down the remaining juice should protect me enough to finish the hack on high level turrets. If bots aren't all taken out then the firebase has the added bonus of keeping pros busy when attempting to take me out.
  19. Snipen8r

    Snipen8r New Member

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    WHAT!? Are you sure about this? Dude! I have to test that out that's insane.
  20. Wintermute

    Wintermute New Member

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    Since I've been running RoF, Speed, Armour (and "was" working for the 20 Hurt gun kills in a match, the free weekend got me that too,) mostly used the Hurt when juiced up.

    I've gotten used to a fast Support so that's my new Setup.

    As for hacking turrets when juiced, a distraction/helper definitely helps if it's a RockIt or Lazer, hacking a Longshot or ShaveIce feels mostly for trolling and forcing the enemy team to destroy their own resource. I've only ever Juice-Hacked a ShaveIce (3) during a LazerRazer match. It definitely helped because the ShaveIce covered all but one spawn-exit. Tried hacking some RockIt 2's, but with no aid, it was hard, especially without the Gold Armour. Might try Snipen8r's tactic using the multiple natural distraction next opportunity I get.

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