This Is What's Needed In The Next Update - Revised -

Update: Revised - Removed several points

1* Grapple should work even when people are jumping around/flying/jetting! up etc.
Trying to grapple someone and then them flying up turning round and killing you, is a huge problem that needs sorting.

Update : Smoke bomb seems to work much less consistently ( doesn't jump up) when upgraded.

1.Gunner Grapple does 20% more damage (Balance for slow speed)

2.Juice Machines' cost increases 100 after each use or some other form of balancing (Reduce Juice spamming without significantly increasing expenditure on turrets and thus equally damaging game play)

3.Remove ability to boost/Lunge (Lunge has been contested) through traps without getting frozen

4.Remove ability to kill players in their spawn base

5. Remove Ledge next to back wall on Spunky cola that views the money ball, which player camp on.

6.Price of ejectors reduced to 40 as Its contradictory to spend 50 on it to only get 50 back.(with only a chance of getting a pay out) - Only down to 40 to take into account high payout for Ring outs.


8.Fix for glitch where skills are unusable

9.Fix for glitch with Snipers zoom in lag which keeps 'zooming'

10.Fix for Glitch with use of weapon in lag when it is unusable (Doesn't work)

11.Fix for supports hack skill (Sometimes it doesn't work - yet you have to wait for it to recharge)

12. Fix for When you boost/kick a player on top of a vent and don't get the kill (They just die of burns)

13.Fix for not getting the kill when you die while boosting and your body carries on to kill the player - and no-one gets the kill. (Says player is killed by attack but not a specific player)

14.Fix for glitch when getting stuck in a screen which shows MNC Emblem with navy background (Have a 15sec timeout or something)

15.In-game' Show what Prestige a player is (Next to there level when they kill you)

16.Have a guide on the menu/Lobby/Load screen to show what the prestige's look like (I thought that the bots where just their to show that they'd killed you - for ages!)

17.Make waves much harder on the first Blitz map, after round 120 they just become easier and boring - even without bacon (I think this down to the last update making Rockit turrets cheaper)

18.More jump pads on both Blitz maps, to get up onto the higher levels easier (Especially the first map where 2 of the side ejectors are almost never worth using as they take so long to get to!)

19.Reduction of Tanks damage a variable depending on how far they have boosted before they hit a player eg. Boost 1 meter =100% Damage boost 7 meter =60% Damage
(I have been clipped by a tank at the end of its charge and died in one -from full health!)


And that's about it - Any feedback appreciated, This has taken me to long, not to take it into account! Thanks
-A Very Casual Cat.

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You just told people how to spawn strike I wiould take part of that off

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Ive never seen number 4

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True, but if this point isn't raised then the minority of people who use this glitch will continue to benefit from it until someone else raises it. Id pay the price of suffering more from it short term - until its fixed, so that the game benefit from it being removed long term.

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everyone knows it, dont spread it around.

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I read about this far before getting irritated. The ring out isn't enough?...

Then I read this far and decided the rest of this was not worth reading. Lunging is the only way for an Assassin to even somewhat counter ice traps. Every other class can use an explosive to get rid of it; the Assassin cannot.

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:|

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When I play you and that DeS clan tag Guy I always see the fire base under my spawn and think "wow this Guy's name is Jeff".

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Good point and could be taken into account - but as for disregarding 19 other points Good One!

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!!!!!!

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Contested again. I agree with Leif.

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This is perfectly fine. If you don't want to get frozen, DON'T WALK INTO THE DAMNED TRAP IN THE FIRST PLACE.

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hahahahahah...

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hehe...

heh.

Okay, well a lot of that stuff is opinion, aside from fixing obvious glitches.

Juice machines could use 2x longer delay, or cost $700 instead, so it isn't abused excessively. What you said could work too I suppose.

Tank deploy is very useful for boosting off bot lazors and gremlins for juice, and to regen health faster so you can get back to the field faster.

All glitches though, they may not all be so easy to fix but the PC version makes them slightly better, so when they get some of that headed to the PC, it will be much better.

hehehhHHAHAHEHEHhahahahhh... people exposing glitches, and people crying about spreading them... :roll: BTW I agree with you Casual Cat.

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Yeah a lot was opinion ,but very reasoned and informed opinion at that!

And people covering up the airstike glitch is brilliant, Give people an edge on others and they wont want to give it up - Just look at Gaddafi!

Agree with the juice one either option would solve that pretty simple problem

And finally that Tank bit was just a bit of inspiration I got while I slaved over writing it - Didn't realise that use for it, might try that next time I get on the xbox!

Thanks

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Lessee...


1: Gunner doesn't need any buffs at all. Instead of grappling an enemy, you could always just slam and then mow them down while they're slowed. Gunner doesn't even need anything else between the dual gatling and triple mortar as it is. Maybe people that are even worse at it than I am(all both of them), but the game shouldn't be made imbalanced because an extreme minority are just that bad at it. It's such a bad idea honestly, we may as well be trying to figure out how to make the game more accessible for blind quadruplegics.

2: Couldn't hurt, but maybe it'd be better to just increase the price instead of tacking on another mechanic. There's already horrible performance problems when there are lots of bots, I figure adding another thing for the game to calculate would be bad.

3: Nope.

4: Absolutely. If I'm not mistaken it should be patched the next time the 360 version gets an update.

5: Yes.
6: I'm indifferent to the idea. Either way is fine to me.

7: Nah. Not really worth putting it in a 360 update. PC? Sure. 360 has lots of awful limitations regarding updates, so focusing on major fixes is the way to go.

8-11: It's all lag. There's only so much that can be done about lag beyond players getting better connections :|

14: You can exit to the dashboard or enter the tutorial to get out of it. It's a major glitch yes, but it's easy enough to get out of I'm not sure about fixing it :|

15/16: Unnecessary, not useful enough to bother with.
17/18: Blitz is kinda boring anyways.

19: Don't understand what you mean, but upgraded Tank charges are meant to be powerful. An Assassin or Sniper without armor is supposed to die from them.

20: I think it's fine as-is. Increasing bot damage would make it even more difficult for new players(decreased range or not), making them target players over bots would be too easily exploited; you wouldn't even need to attack or anything because then YOUR bots would be killing the bots that are targeting you. Doubly so for Tanks.

21: I don't think 10% more power would even be very noticeable except while juiced(even decloak crits still do crap damage to bots), I didn't think there was any kind of range limit on them.

22: Nah, deploy is fine.

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The things i disagree with are the tank "cocoon", the tank charge, the ejector, and the assassain damage. The tanks deploy is not used because it is meant to heal the tank, defend small closed off areas, and juice gain. It is fine the way it is.

The tank charge is meant to be devestating and gives the tank his edge over other classes at close range. It moves quite slowly and is actualy easy to dodge and predict. if you are even in range of it, it means you deserve to be hit with it. Tanks are meant to dominate at close range and this skill allows them to do so.

The assassain is already lethal in many ways as they have a one hit kill ( except tank) and can push bots and be out of the area in a flash.

As for the ejector its meant to allow a quick turn around for bot pushes and it damages pros and stuns them as a bonus. If you want to hit them with it, activate it while they are preoccupied.

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I'm fine with lunge-grappling through it (even though it's logically bull****), but if they just lunge through it without doing anything, they should be frozen when the lunge is over.

Also, **** no at number 7.

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Shuriken is fine as it is. You're supposed to be primarily dependent on your sword.

This is intentional. Build turrets.


Also, what do you mean by "boost"?

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You do know that Deploy rank 2 for a tank causes a faster health recharge right ? this is actually already well used by good tanks