Test Build 113410-pte

Looks interesting. Should be fun. If all testing goes well. When do you plan for going live with it. Clan tournament tomorrow so would be nice to know. Thanks.

This is by far the best patch PA has had since renewing the work on balance! Here are some bugs discovered during testing:

1) When giving a line unload command the displayed line only covers a final fraction of the drawn drop line. The units are still dropped according to the command, but the displayed line is much shorter

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2) There is a slight inconsistency with queuing drop commands. Doing so will override any other queued commands regardless of other factors

3) Looks like T2 metal extractors still costs 1500 and gives 20/ sec

less eco means less things which means less fun....game balance is getting worse in my estimation....no more nukes or titans in 1v1s....just tier one spam, sounds really boring.

You're right, and I actually think nukes and antinukes should be lowered in cost to compensate. This eco change should affect everything else besides nukes/antis IMO.

To me it feels like these balance changes should be packaged with air fighter HP reduction, storm rework (which is longer range direct flak/missile and manual-fire only to make the shots skillful) and possibly an air fighter missile speed reduction. When I have time I'm going to post a storm rework as well as a buff to the vanguard (to more effectively deal with crowd control, which enables tanks to crush large dox hordes, which then leaves bluehawks vulnerable to tanks, making a t2 tank opener in 1v1 viable...) to this thread https://forums.planetaryannihilation.com/threads/2019-vehicle-economy-misc-unit-balance.73325/

Mostly this is because I think air (especially gunships) are going to be very very strong now that killing expansions and metal extractors becomes super high priority. My old thoughts about this still stay true:
https://forums.planetaryannihilatio...y-misc-unit-balance.73325/page-2#post-1150285

Idk about you guys, but I'm just pretty happy right now

I personally like the sound of the changes... looking forward to testing them!

tier 2 metal shouldn't be nerfed tier 1 should be buffed

Same thing happens but you can still rush tier 2 if you feel like it and win

why not just let people express their concerns?

make tier 1 metal cheaper not tier 2 metal worse. This way tier 2 rushing is still viable but so is tier 1 spamming. As far as air is concerned I have a few ideas. You can either buff the storm's rate of fire, or you can nerf kestrals. Wyrms need a health or buff, hornets need to be able to shoot backwards, angels need to cost around 3,000 metal because currently they are not viable in really any way.

t1 metal costs practically nothing, that was never an issue.(Hint: the issue is protecting and raiding it) Air is a mess on it's own to be dealt with, and we need to see how the game stabilizes after this patch before asking for drastic reworks. I still back the fighter hp reduction and reverting the spinner, and buffing storms, as for the kestrel, it really matters how wyrms and hornets are handled to make T2 air fun and complex


>Having the drifter as a soft-ish counter to slammers (even higher drifter damage per shot and maybe even lower RoF to compensate) is a good way to diversify the T2 bot meta, but we will see how that goes<

The whole issue here is a boost in eco allowing for t2 army numbers to skyrocket and you want to increase eco even further by buffing t1 mex... bruh

Aw crap now getting out of an eco stall will be even harder. Surly in a game where both side's have the same unit's the only balance needed is to stop spam.

You will have less eco which means you should make less fabbers and less factories. It only makes it different not harder. And this is exactly the change that "stops spam".

intresting changes to say the least ...
but for the negative nancys here .. hold your butts .. this is a ptebuild .. so test the eff out of it ..
and we may get adjustments later on ..
personaly i aprove of the idea to delay when t2 gets into propper effect .. and i aprove of the need for more territorycontrol than early t2mexxcapping ... also grenadierbuff YAY! ...

the thing i still would like to see changed is t2 air .. and i´m gonna be honest i wasn´t active the last couple months
so others may have a much better grasp on this on weither t2 air has been more broadly used than standart fighter and gunshipspam ... also like to see a slight buff on the icarus for some light raiding- primarily fabbers MAYBE a bit into mexxraiding ... but they should not rival dox in general raiding ...

there is a difference in stating concerns and flat out " NUUUUU DON`T DU DIS!!!!! RAGE!!!!111!!!"-statements