Effectiveness of reclaiming unit wreckage

So since unit wreckage has been added to PA:T, I'm wondering if there is any actual tactical advantage to reclaiming unit wreckage. It seems as though if it is a unneccesary step, and only takes away your attention. Is there any matches where reclaiming wreckages actually helped the winner to win?

personally i haven't yet watched a match where this has significantly changed the outcome but im sure with professional players who need some sort of comeback will see this come into play.

there is a large about of metal to gain from wreckage especially if its mostly tanks, infernos and dox as there is no splash damage to destroy wreckage.

The problem is that at T1 no one is going to have the energy to both reclaim and spend all that metal so the metal isn't worth much unless they've just been badly raided.

Reclaiming costing metal is a bad design anyway. Just like fabbers draining full energy while you stall metal.

disagree ... energy drain is a matter of maintainancecost for fabbers .. otherwise you may as well just throwout a swarm of fabbers purly for reclaiming .. that is just as silly ..

And why would that be silly?

I think it depends on the map.
With the current metal-rich maps out there you will not see it very often, But if you have maps where metal is really scarce it will get more important to get an edge over your opponent.

You can reclaim with combat fabricators which have great energy efficiency.

Reclaiming sure is important. Though overkill on wreckages still does reduce how much it helps and the added energy costs make it harder to manage as well.

simply for the speed and ammount of metal you could get out of it .. sure you would have to build those fabbers first but those may easily pay for themselves with the basicaly free reclaim ...

So where is the problem? That is the whole POINT of reclaimable wreckages

no risk other than losing the fabbers ... would rather benefit defensive play while being less vulnerable ... so i say if you want that metalboost than be ready to risk more powergenerators ..

Look at SupCom. It works well without energy costs.

Reclaiming so you can build more powergenerators so you can reclaim - duh.

Also, a big problem with the current system is that it heavily promotes micro since switching your fabbers on and off all the time is the best you can do while running low on metal.

@cola_colin even made a mod which shows how extreme the problem is (for metal stalling when building, but those are kinda related): https://forums.uberent.com/threads/wip-free-energy.69359/

if combat fabber cost 50 metal less or had more hp to withstand 2 tank shots, i would use it as part of core composition both to repair and to reclaim as needed.

Is it possible to have a client mod in which combat fabs auto-reclaim? It would really cut down on the unnecessary micro

so just went into sandbox ..

like realy have a couple combatfabbers they are fairly cheap in energymaintanance and realy if you float power there is no excuse to not have them on how quickly they can reclaim units

just do the math they drain 400 energy a plant provides 600 ..
that´s 2 plants for 3 cfabs ... otherwise at worse build yourself a powerstorage ..

the problem is only the buildcost realy 250 metal for cfab + 400 metal for pgen .. but depending on what they reclaim they may pay for themselfeves fairly quickly .. like reclaim 6 tanks you may have the cost back in ..

Listen to this man Uber. Make the combat fabber worth building.

More like 10, if there isn't any overkill.

Yeah overkill is a pain. Is it actually possible to do something like "wreckages in general only take half damage" or something?