Jig chain reaction?

Do jigs cause chain reactions if built using the area build command?

That is the reason for my question actually. Is the Better Jigs mod still required?

Are you kidding? Try something in game? Why not make a top level thread about it and get someone else to try it and report back? Sounds much easier.

Thanks for nothing Captain Obvious! Trying something out seems like a lot of work for something the Devs could just answer for us. And it could also lose me the game! If you aren't going to help then please just keep your mouth shut.

@jables

Test it in an AI skirmish against an idle AI usinng an x10 econ modifier for yourself.

I think that the default area build does not chain react, in PTE at least, but I'm not at my computer to test this out for you.

you don't need to go through the trouble of actually building things up.

Turn on the cheat mods in PAMM then turn on sandbox in the lobby, press alt+f1 and press ctrl+V when your mouse is over the gas giant to paste an avatar fabricator.

LOL. Thanks for this.

But surely a Dev (@jables) can just give us a quick answer to this question. This is the kind of thing you would usually have in a tutorial anyway. With the lack of the tutorial and without having to test everything out, a simple answer to this question from a Dev would suffice.

Since @jables is currently on vacation after getting married (congratulations by the way), I'm pretty sure testing will get you a faster answer

You could also check the mod forum post for the mod that fixed this as most mod owners are good about noting when their mod has been outdated by the game files.

I also forgot to mention that in at least some builds you could drag out the area build a small amount for a tight cluster that would chain, and if you dragged further you would get a larger spacing that won't chain. Pretty sure that is what is in game now, but I'm not (yet) able to play the game at my job

I'm not after a quick answer. I'm happy to wait for @jables to return from vacation. And I have already asked the mod owner (no answer).

https://forums.uberent.com/threads/rel-stuart98s-minimods.59559/page-2#post-1090434

EDIT: Okay, yes I said "quick answer" in my previous post, but I didn't mean quick as in "immediately", I meant quick as in "can answer this easily". I already use the Better Jigs mod, but if it's now superfluous, then I will uninstall it.

@mkrater @bgolus @forrestthewoods @Sorian
can one of you please answer this question for me...

What makes you think the developers are at your beck and call? It will take you a total of 2 minutes to check this for yourself

Problem? You mean anti snowball mechanic?

yes, but there are 2 area commands. The one that looks like an organized grid will cause a reaction and the one that occurs when you drag your mouse as far as possible will not.

They aren't at my beck and call, but this is something that should be explained in a tutorial/game guide, especially since the behaviour of things in this game have changed many times. It's because of things like this that the game hasn't gained a wider audience. I mean some people call boom bot snipes overpowered (or a "noob strat"), just because they don't know that Dox counter boom bots.

This is a pretty simple question which would take one of the Devs two seconds to answer. I don't see why everyone has a problem with me asking this simple question.

We're just prempting the tantrum your about to throw when you don't get an answer quickly enough...

Also your using this as a backdoor method to prove a point as I don't think you have any genuine interest in getting an answer. Just rename the thread 'pa needs a tutorial' and have done with it.

I love it when people jump on these forums to defend their "Dearest Uber". This is not a backdoor method for anything and I don't really care about a "PA Tutorial", I've been playing PA for a long time and I have no need for a tutorial. I was simply pointing out the fact that something like chain reactions would most likely be included in a tutorial. The chain reactions were added, removed, added, removed, added (who knows what state it's at now) in order to balance the Gas Giants. I would simply like someone to advise me of the current state of the Jig balance.

I am genuinely interested in an answer to this question and I find it amazing how no one can give me a definitive answer to it.

It seems more likely that this thread will get shut down by a mediator before I get an answer...

You've been given everything you need to sort it yourself but you seem insistent that only a dev is worthy enough to answer you. Why? That is why I assumed you were trying to prove a point. Would one of us testing this for you be acceptable?

I think i remember a patch note saying that they fixed the Jig chain reaction by adding an armor value or similar...
If one had the courage, it could go throug a few of them and find the correct answer...

While testing would still be the quickest way to check !

Look how much fuss you are causing because you are too lazy to try out the thing you want to know the answer to.

I work for a software company and my clients often ask me 'what happens if I do X' and I say 'I don't know, why don't you try it" and I charge them £850 a day for this service.

Ah so you're paying Uber $850 a day then?

It has nothing to do with being lazy. I'm seriously amazed that for something apparently so simple to test, no one knows the answer. The PA community is definitely a strange bunch. It's kind of fun watching all the chaos evolve out of such a simple query. You would think something like this would be common knowledge, but apparently not. I will obviously test it myself if that's what it comes down to, but I just thought this would be common knowledge and maybe one person would know the answer... apparently not.

Nice to see the PA community is still so welcoming