streaming in pa

Discussion in 'Unrelated Discussion' started by violetania, February 20, 2015.

  1. slocke

    slocke Active Member

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    I know you an me have talked a bit about it this before but i just wanted to share some things. So I went to a conference a few years a go. It was an animation and gaming development conference. One of the speakers was a guy called Alex St. John. A very interesting man with a wealth of knowledge and has seen many talented people develop. My friend approached him and she asked him about what to do if people in the industry discriminant against you because you are woman. He basically said ignore it. You can't let it phase you. You have to keep doing your best and keep persevering regardless. He said of females who he knew that had come up against it but they didn't let it get to them and now they are in really high positions in their fields. People will find things to discriminate against you for regardless of who you are. They will use your skin color or your gender or your looks or your personality to degrade you. You just can't give up.

    Now please don't think that I am implying that harassment and all that is right because I don't think it is. However I do feel that if you put yourself in public eye you are opening yourself up to criticism and harassment. It is just something that comes with the territory. It is something that you will have to learn how to deal with and be prepared to encounter it. This goes for both men and women. Ana Kasparian is a strong and beautiful woman who I really respect.

    Okay I can't get the video to play from where I want it. But start at 4 minutes. You can watch the rest of the stuff but that's not what I am referring to and it is rather long.
    For myself what she said in this video helped shape my views on it. There is a lot of stuff that is said in that video but I am only referring to the things that were said that are relevant to this conversation.

    The other thing that I did want to mention is about JennyTheSquirrel. I've told you before that I think shes brilliant but I wanted to elaborate on why I think that. Firstly yes she is attractive and she uses that. I think good for her. If she is comfortable doing that then why not. I sat and watched her for a bit and there are several things that she does well that will keep people coming back and building a community. She interacts with her audience, this is a major one. If a streamer interacts with their audience it is so much more enjoyable to watch. She gets up and dances when she has down time between games. When she dances she explains how to do the dance and encourages her audience to dance with her. I love that because A) it's a fun thing to do and B) she is encouraging her audience to get active and moving, this is a very healthy thing to do as gamers more often than not sit for hours on end not really moving. She also to an extent preforms while she is gaming. She treats it as thou she was an entertainer. This makes watching her stream so much better. Most streamers just sit there and play a game. Personally I prefer it when the streamer injects their personality into what they are doing. I'm not saying that you have to be like JennyTheSquirrel but I think that she shouldn't be written off as just 'hot girl streamer'.

    I wanted to write this to hopeful be somewhat helpful. Not really interested in starting a debate over what is and isn't ethical/sexist/anyotherconrovesy.png. I know that it is hard to deal with it and I hope you keep streaming cause I enjoy saying stupid stuff in the background of your stream. :p long post is long
  2. violetania

    violetania Well-Known Member

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    Sorry for the late reply, i didn't see this thread where i posted it so i thought they deleted it because of bad publicity or something =P
    Honestly i didn't think cam was a big deal, like pa being my first game i didn't realise being a girl would really matter at all,

    @clopse, your pecks make lovely cleavage ;) jokes! hehe I really need to hold my emotions better >.< ahahah
    @mered4 that's kinda like saying you can't control hurting someone's feelings is like the equivalent of a murderer saying they can't help killing, it doesn't make it right....
    @mjshorty some of these people are 30 =P but yea, my boyfriend commented "bloody hell they need to get a job to afford their fedora collection" heh
    @Nosebreaker and @imperatorurist you're such a troll, hehe i love you <3
    @Alpha2546 YOU'RE SO MEAN!!!! DX
    @slocke i don't have a problem with jenny as a person or her stream, it's just people constantly told me how i should dress like her and.... GAH! like this might have started in BRN but it got linked to other people who weren't as subtle about.... things. ahahaha
    @DeathByDenim @cdrkf @Geers @remy561 and @Quitch and everyone else who was lovely, thanks for your support!

    But in general i just wanted to say thanks for your support guys, i just felt like i really needed to put out there how much it trolling and sexist comments can affect people as well as commenting that it's not really fair to blame female streamers on some things.... Apparently PA is a decent community and i would really like to see more girls in this community so it'd be great to see an amazing and lovely community for them to come into =D hehe I will try to be a scary monster when mean people come around... RAWR! XD

    Love you guys! hehe <3 also sorry if the rant was a bit over the top, like it was just a build up of anger from comments like show us your tits and stuffs which... ya, ahahaha, ^.^

    edit: Qzart said that said that apparently Boggles was made to feel really bad about what he said on my stream, also i heard there was more drama about casting and stuff... i didn't mean for more drama than a slap on the wrist, like yea, it made me cry but lets face it there are so many sexist people out there... as long as we learn and improve, we can move on.
    @drboggles @g0hstreaper and @luckyred (i think i tagged the right people) i've played a lot of games with you guys so yes you guys were mean and yes yelled back, so we were all mean, lets be friends again? ^.^ Hugs!!!!
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  3. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    You should buy Just Cause 2. Perfect game for venting. Not only can you take out your anger on pixels, but it'll also cheer you up because it's just so wacky and hilarious.
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    My favourite form of venting will still have to be 1v1-ing the person i'm annoyed at, win or lose, it really lets me vent because i shove all my anger into trying to beat the other person hehe <3
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    Intolerance of intolerant such a paradox yet we as a community are willing to hurt ourselves and each other to protect the doubble standards that we hold dearly.
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  6. violetania

    violetania Well-Known Member

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    Yea i agree, but if as a community we can't change to be less sexist and alienating i think it's unfair to punish the few that get caught out because theyre names are well known.
    One day the world will see girls just as another human and not something to make fun of heh =P And then girls will flock into gaming <3 hehe
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  7. slocke

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    I don't feel comfortable with you implying that the community is 'sexist' and 'alienating'. Of course there are individuals who are sexist but I feel 'unaware' and 'insensitive' are better words to describe the attitude of the community. Which is where having conversations like this really does bring to awareness these topics.

    Hah you and I would love to brainwash a whole bunch of girls and make them love PA but I don't think that is quite ethical. It would be cool if there were more vocal female voices in the community. I honestly feel that women just prefer different types of games (that is completely up for debate, you might be able to bait me into a discussion about it), my solution to that is just respect that girls just don't want to play PA and let them play any game they want. I mean the PA community isn't that big anyway. I'm just glad our clan has got a second girl. I was stoked when we got one. I hope this thread has been an example of how the community does support you. Keep up the good fight.

    Now we need to work on whipping the anti-sportsmanlike players into shape.
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    violetania Well-Known Member

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    Perhaps sexist and alientating are too strong of words to be using.... and i totally agree that females should be able to choose whatever games they want to play but i want to make sure this community is as welcoming as it can be so any female players that choose to try it will be more inclined to stay =3 hehe
    Also i have to say urists comment on intolerance of the intolerant really stands out to me... just thought i'd put it out there heh =P
  9. Geers

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    Stop making a big deal out of it or this crap is never gonna stop.
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  10. slocke

    slocke Active Member

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    Sorry it was a joke i will edit it out of my post if you really think its that bad.
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    A delicate flower rests upon the pedestal, only for the pedestal to come crashing down. The flower floats gracefully through the air and lands softly on the remains of the pedestal. No one will notice the flower among the wreckage.
  12. nosebreaker

    nosebreaker Post Master General

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    Maybe.. Maybe .. The group should be a boys only group and we should bann girls joining just like we would if we were muslim.
    That way pazoki could continue to post herpies and wart ridden penis posts for us to oggle.
    Then boys could be boys.
    after all Dont we log on to get away from the wifes and g/fs in real life.....
    why would we run from one to run to another ........


    The Nosebreaker waits for the explosions of love and support
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  13. warmax

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    The white knights of Ania are coming, us peasants are being oppressed by them! The Nobles ignore us and let the knights have their way with us! We that toil in the field and feed the fat Nobles!
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  14. sardaukar666

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    Notice it says anti-sportsMANLIKE players
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    As someone a year your senior I feel obligated to point out that this attitude is what causes this sort of thing.
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    guys who stand with me today this girl and her white knights has broken us up as made us fight each other has made us go mad but today we will fight back we will fight this girl and when we win my brothers peace will come back to the land and every thing will be back to its origin state now we fight!!! whos with me

    freedom.jpg
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  17. stuart98

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    No one Max.

    I'd advise against getting caught up in things you know nothing about.

    Rule of thumb Max: Treat everyone on the Internet with respect unless they've given you a dang good reason not to. Jokes aren't well communicated on the Internet and a joke that shows no respect towards a person or a group is to be avoided completely. There is no humor to be found in such things and ultimately they do nothing positive for anyone. Isn't the whole point of a joke to create a feeling of positivity?
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    I would advise you, stuart, to Try and Comprehend the Wording & Meaning rather then the statment that was said.
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  20. nosebreaker

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    As some one three times your age..... I think your missing a re run of twilight at the picture theatre...
    This post is way above your understanding.
    Your merely mimicking what you have read based off what your barely understanding to be.


    Yes stuart98 lets all be robots.................
    That way the overly sensitive people wont have their sensibilities offended!!!
    You are the enemy of sane people!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!!Every where!!!!!!!!!!!!!

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