New players pls: Joining the big clans is bad for you

I suppose we could do this, kind of feel it goes against our ethos though, we've never not let anyone in before based on skill. In fact some of our noobiest recruits turn out to be the best players after a while. Plus I enjoy chatting with new members, not sending them off to some 'designated noobs' channel in the teamspeak.

I no longer actively recruit in game which I did until a few months back, and in 'newbie looking for a clan' threads I tend to just suggest they look around for a clan that suits them rather than going JOIN US which, again, was my old tactic. They make the threads because they want names of clans to join though, I can't name new small clans when they don't exist...

You better start packing. We let anyone do whatever. We aren't controlling. We aren't super demanding. If you want help, and you ask for it, we will train you. And your tactics will vary depending on who trains you. I can say that all the folks I've personally trained have become much, much better players at PA. I can also say the same with those anyone else in the Realm has trained, without ever having met them. We know PA. We've been here since the Kickstarter. You are stirring up trouble for the sake of trouble. The only people I know who do this are considered children.

That's because we can do it better than Zaphod. Mind you, i don't condone their actions (it's a fun game, why are we playing it to win like it's a tourney?), but the reasoning behind it is something I use on randoms in team games I occasionally join. Essentially, I show them how to do it better, and next game, they know better. It can be rude, but most of the time we are just trying to help.

Ben, we aren't super controlling. We are the most open clan in PA. Just sign up on our website and you're in for trial membership, which is almost the exact same thing as a full member. We love new players, and we appreciate experience. Most of all, we just want to have fun.

There is also a small amount of WE ARE #1 ALWAYS going on, but that's saved for the tourneys

to be frank spreading the general skilllevel throughout the clans ... just look at some footballleagues were allmost always the same teams are on top because all of the better players are there and because that team is well known everyone wants to be there aswell ... ok in case of football more a moneycase ... but i think you get my point ...
i can tell you that most germans are tired from munich to be always on top of the german bundesliga ... ... f**kin munich

so if we want a better e- sport PA we need both the awarness aswell as more skilled clans/teams ...

well, I've also encountered a few people from RLM who acted quite unfavorably, so I think I'll pass.

personaly i am constantly thinking about joining a clan ... but the thing i iam just not an active player
neither am i good at PA ... heck i don´t even have a darn rank yet because i just sandbox and play few ai games occacionaly ... and that´s it ..

One P player,______, was so abusive in a match I emailed Uber about him.

You cannot read a book by it's cover. This is especially true when it involves large groups of people.

no witchhunting please ....

Well no need to join anyone. There are quite a few good teamspeak channels (ours for example) and you'd be welcome to come join us for some games.

TeamSpeak is really a must for good team play.

Really? That's not good- he's a new recruit. Was he badmouthing in lobby or in game? If the latter can you please give me the game id and I'll take a look.

Our ethos is to be respectful to other players...

especialy if you play lol, dota codmultiplayer ... sigh ...

will consider it ...

He means nothing by it, he called me something filthy in the teamspeak earlier without an iota of ill will behind it.

If this bothers you, and fair enough if it does, please inform us in a PM or inform Uber as you have. There is no need to go naming players publicly in the forums. In fact it is against forum rules, and for very good reason.

I would like some information on *what* was said before declaring 'he means nothing by it'...? Probably best to take this to a PM conversation though rather than in the forum. I think it should be said publicly though that we *don't* condone bad behaviour towards other players.

I was referring only to his behaviour on the TeamSpeak to other clan members.

Looks like you've successfully derailed your own thread there icycalm.

Really you all are going way to serious about this clan thingy. There is and always will be one clan and it has some crazy *** aussies in it . And if you don't join then fair enough. But you'll be missing some really cool people.

Wait what was this thread about?

This thread has just turned into a mind numb, let people do what they want. Its a fairly small community, why try and segregate the small amount of players into like 100 different clans, you would have like 10 people per clan? Oh LOOK ITS PERFECT TO GET INTO CLAN WARS ... Because every single one of them is going to be completely active. Do the maths you numpty.

People do have other things to do other than PA, some people even take a smart route and leave for a bit to do school work or other life commitments. Therefore a clan of 50 people might only have 5-10 on at a regular basis because the other 40-45 cannot get on, have other things to do, different time zones or just playing another game.

Stop picking on other clans because the cult is tiny and rubbish, even lost a 3v5 vs randoms and you're saying Realm has a bad attitude? 3v5 is fairly cocky for this current balance in the game. Oh and they lost by the way

Before you start slandering off any group, find out what the general morale of the group is first because 20% is not the majority as far as maths goes, so a hand full of people does not make a clan.

So again, is this thread going to continue discussing rubbish? Play the game, have fun, if you don't like a clan because you want to participate and they won't let you, guess what, you have a choice to LEAVE! No one can force you to stay and be a slave for 'numbers'. Get off your high horses and stop being opinionated or if you want to keep that way, be open to other opinions and stop arguing about senseless bullcrap that has nothing personally to do with you.

Part of your icycalm psychology? Pretending that you got what you wanted when the attitude from senior players has been nothing but 'do whatever you want to do', 'we're nothing like what you're describing' and 'we're in this for the friends and community not the game' ... Attitude like this only shows up when defending our positions against trolls like you that like to stir things up.

Icycalm: "Don't join the big clans, join the cult because there's not enough members" gg bro, gg you're only being self centered, that's all this complaint of yours has to show. Leave the new players do what THEY want to do, I've offered people to come and join, some have not because that was their choice! Stop drilling YOUR ideal's into other people's heads.

Basically all that Uber has to do is add voice chat to the game. Then the randoms will at last be somewhat coordinated, and my friends and I will have teams to play against at our level.

Failing that, if voice chat is too much, is in-game clan controls as per my other thread today, because they will spur the creation of clans which will in turn spur the adoption of voice chat apps among the playerbase. At that point there will be nothing that custard and his friends will be able to do to spoil my fun, since they will no longer be able to vacuum up all the new players and keep them confined to cheering them on from their benches.

"Team Burning aims to create a social network for people interested in playing PA socially, together we can hone our skills and play the game competitively. We have friendly games most nights on our Gamevox Server, challenge other PA clans to epic inter-clan wars and host social tournaments on a monthly basis. Players of any skill level who are interested in playing PA and improving their skills in a friendly environment are welcome. It does not matter if you have not played a game yet or have been playing since alpha we are more than happy to have you on board."

The amount of players we have registered on our website has just broken the 80 members mark but truth be known over 50% of our players are not active players and a lot of people only show up on a monthly basis to play games, the entire point of our clan is a social meeting point for australasian players, ask any of our international players, we suggest that they join clans better suited to there timezone, if people want to join us it is entirely their choice. personally I would love if more of our players were able/willing to participate in clan wars but we struggle to get 4-8 people on the dates and times for clanwars, next season there will be a more varied roster for the games because we play games to have fun, we love training new people to play the game.

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Just saw your edits. culture.vg is the new version of insomnia.ac, which was founded in 2005. The sites you are talking about are babies compared to mine. And you don't seem to understand the difference between criticism and theory and wikis. OF COURSE wikis have more traffic, since far more people care about random information than insight. Here's some Schopenhauer for you, if you need more explanation:

"Students, and learned persons of all sorts and every age, aim as a rule at acquiring information rather than insight. They pique themselves upon knowing about everything — stones, plants, battles, experiments, and all the books in existence. It never occurs to them that information is only a means of insight, and in itself of little or no value; that it is his way of thinking that makes a man a philosopher."

The market for information is gigantic, but for insight tiny. Which is why you think that comparing the readership of Harry Potter to Heraclitus is a good idea.