Dear Uber: HALP

Step 1: Download Statera.
Step 2: Enter devmode/whatever you use to enable the unit selector
Step 3: Spawn 20 Thetas/Gambitdafas/Potbelly79s/Iwmikeds/Whatever missile com you want
Step 4: Spawn 450 fireflies for the other team and fly them over the missile coms
Step 5: Tell me why the heck the sim freezes.

All the server says is "RecvCmd()", which tells me nothing.

wow cool find!

Did you try restarting your computer?


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You spawned in 470 units at once and your *surprised* the sim freezes?!

I think the real problem lies in the missile comms.

Anyway, it always baffles me how experienced members of the forums post in the incorrect subforum so often.

If I had 1 com and 50 fireflies it would happen if you waiting long enough. The 20 coms and 450 fireflies are just to make it happen quickly.

This isn't just a problem with massive scale scenarios, although it certainly does occur far more in them. I had a game sim freeze at 3 minutes in because my theta com shot at a single firefly from wondible.

Try pressing alt+f4

Have you considered disabling all other mods? (like awesome projectiles)

Yeah, a sim freeze is being caused by client side mods.

Well hopefully not. Prove?

It's not physically possible for a client side mod to cause a sim freeze AFAIK.

It is. For example you might be able to crash the whole server by calling some "do this command please" method too quickly or similar. Yes that would be a bug, but this thread is about a bug, isn't it?
I.e. image the currently hidden calls for line commands crash the server when called. A mod may call them and crash the server => a UI mod affects the sim

A client mod shouldn't cause a sim freeze but it's been known to happen. Particularly early in development before we've fully hardened the server against misbehaving and/or malicious clients. There could simply be a case we missed.

Does freeze mean Sim completely 100% stops progressing and you never, ever, ever get another tick? Or does "freeze" just mean it pauses for a really long time because resuming. Or it just gets really slow. Or some combination of long pause plus slow. All this cases imply different causes.

If the sim completely stops moving forward and server.exe is spinning a core at 100% that implies an infinite loop.

If a core is pegged at 100% but after 30 seconds the sim finally moves on that implies the server is doing something really stupid that it shouldn't. I actually like those bugs because dumb bug usually means simple fix. It's the smart bugs you have to be careful around...

You are overwriting some stuff that you're inheriting from base_missile.json with identical values, so that's a bit silly. Take the inheritance into account with my next sentence (i.e. maybe remove from some stuff base_missile too).

If I could be bothered, I'd go through things in the missiles ammo .json, picking out things that might cause lag one at a time and testing without them:

• spawned.audio_cue
• fx_trail
• model
• splash damage/radius.

That might help Uber spot the issue. Maybe one of the audio tracks is ludicrously large or something.

It might be a... brain bug?

Stops 100% without ever getting another tick.

Brain Bugs? Frankly, I find the idea of a bug that thinks offensive!

I love that movie.

Soooo... @forrestthewoods Any idea what the cause is?