I'm making a list of all the people that bomber snipe.

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by killerkiwijuice, October 19, 2014.

  1. killerkiwijuice

    killerkiwijuice Post Master General

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    The ratio of bombers to fighters is very low in that image. I can say from experience that 12 flak is not enough. He also did not represent what an actual "pro" sniper does, pro snipers spread out their force where the air units are not affected by AOE from flak. Then they can either just fly over or wait until they are very close to the comm, and the flak does barely anything.
  2. Kryoclasm

    Kryoclasm New Member

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    Built AA turrets + spinners + fighters == Effective anti bomber snipe countermeasures.

    Use what is available to you.

    On another note the I agree that Astreus trick is a bit lame.
  3. ef32

    ef32 Well-Known Member

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    It's the only way to win for me, so sorry.
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  4. zgrssd

    zgrssd Active Member

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    If you hate loosing that much, do not play FFA or PvP
    In a 1 vs 1 or Team vs Team game you win chance is only 50%.
    In a FFA it is 100% divided by number of players. So in a 10 way FFA you only get a 10% chance to win (because 9 out of 10 people have to loose for 1 to win).

    Using fighters agaisnt fighters is not a good idea. Avoid shooting something that can shoot back.
    The best way to shoot down enemy fighters is with anything but fighters, especially ground units.

    If the enemy invests everything into bombers he should be vulnerable to ground and/or bot assaults. Invest equal amounts of metal into Dox and you can counter and propably kill him. Alterantively there is the boom bot snipe (same per unit metal cost, even harder to hit for bombers).
    Each hummingbird costs 180 Metal, each bomber 240.
    Each boom or Dox costs 45. That means 4 per humming bird. And 5-6 per bomber.
    And that is before you include that air builds relevantly slower then all other factories (12 Metal instead of 15), so you get much better throughput per factory.

    If you don't have the time/econ to invest equal amount of Metal into coutner units, then you had already lost. The bombers were meerely the means to your defeat, not the reason for your defeat.
  5. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Please, bomber snipes are so last season.

    I use these snipes:

    Bolosnipe
    Infernosnipe
    Fabbersnipe
    Commandersnipe
    Doxsnipe
    Grenadiersnipe
    Combatfabbersnipe
    Boomsnipe
    advancedfabbersnipe
    levellersnipe
    vanguardsnipe
    shellersnipe
    slammersnipe
    bluehawksnipe
    snipersnipingsnipe
    advancedcombatfabbersnipe
    gunshipsnipe
    lightlasertowersnipe
    lasertowersnipe
    advancedlasertowersnipe
    catpultsnipe
    peltersnipe
    holkinssnipe
    frigatesnipe
    destroyersnipe
    torpedolauchersnipe
    advancedtorpedolauchersnipe
    battleshipsnipe
    missileshipsnipe
    nukesnipe
    anchorsnipe
    sxxsnipe
    asteroidsnipe
    metalplanetsnipe

    and last, but not least

    advancedbombersnipe


    So really, what even is a snipe anyway? The only game mode is assassination, sniping is the goal.
  6. vyolin

    vyolin Well-Known Member

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    I am afraid you have mistaken PA for a game of pure luck. If I were to play just about anyone playing PA seriously the probability of me winning would be a plain old 0. The number of players has little to do with your chances of winning, even if everyone is on the same skill level.

    On topic:
    One simple fix to this - which will of course never happen, due to PA being a combat micro game:
    Make anti-air target anti-ground aircraft with the highest possible priority - voilà, hiding your bombers in a swarm of meat-shield fighters avails you nothing anymore. The rest is a matter of juggling numbers.
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  7. valheria

    valheria Active Member

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    Problem is you have people who spend their entire match time making sniping force and neglecting everything else.. it is just not cool as it is telling other players you there just to piss people off.. I bloody wish uber would add a mode were commander death would not make you loose.

    Same thing happens in supreme commander FA.. One guy spent a hour making a teleport laser commander and sniped 4 commanders on the other side of the map one after another while he was in team of 4.. He honestly thought he was a hero doing it.. But his team mates were so angry at him that they banned him from future maps because it is that uncool.. Snipes are fine for the most part.. its the people who are HARDCORE snipers that piss people off because no one wants a team mate to watch one friendly player end the game early because he decided to snipe the commanders before any real action happens.
  8. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    Snipes like the SXX, asteroid and laser are inherently impossible to avoid without prior preparation.

    Bombers are a unit type, and so are not impossible to defend against, FFA's are a exception because of the nature of the mode.

    If your opponent found a chink in the armor, then they are going to go for the heart.
  9. kayonsmit101

    kayonsmit101 Active Member

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    Poor kiwi. If we ever duke it out I'm going to bomber snipe you.
  10. someonewhoisnobody

    someonewhoisnobody Well-Known Member

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    You forgot the
    360NoScopeAdvancedBomberSnipe
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  11. Quitch

    Quitch Post Master General

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    Uh, by who?

    I think we've found the problem.
  12. wstxbb

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    lol, what else can we do to win in a water map?:p
  13. cdrkf

    cdrkf Post Master General

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    I recall playing a big FFA on a water planet with you + a load of other Promethean players... how did you win that in the end again killer?.....

    Pot, kettle much? :p
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  14. MrTBSC

    MrTBSC Post Master General

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    i just literaly imagined all the snipes in cinematic form and that not even including the commander in tranport snipes ... however the result with a few exceptions is always the same ... though seriously imagine losing the commander through combatfabber mines ... i think that would be even more of a saltdrop than being reclaimed ...

    ... i challenge thee @Geers to make the ultimate GIF of that ... all ...
    a commanders milion ways to be sniped ...
    Last edited: October 19, 2014
  15. Obscillesk

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    Hah, I thought he was saying he'd massed enough fabbers to just reclaim the commander while he was firing wildly XD
  16. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    It's frowned upon?

    Because you don't know how to properly defend against it and don't like losing?
  17. gunshin

    gunshin Well-Known Member

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    Sounds like the whining of a sore loser to me.
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  18. rivii

    rivii Well-Known Member

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    1 factory is a bit few :p even in a 1v1.
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  19. philoscience

    philoscience Post Master General

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    Agree this sounds like a whining thread rather than legit problem. The only thing I can say is that maybe if everyone is using T1 bombers so much and not bothering to mix in T2, they might be a bit over powered. Not over-powered in the 'these things are game breaking unfair', just in the sense that if they are by far the most cost effective air unit then we won't see much t2 at play which is a shame for unit diversity.
  20. tatsujb

    tatsujb Post Master General

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    Why? it's a rare strat when you pitch it up against the top ten :
    1. dox spam
    2. dox spam
    3. dox spam
    4. dox spam
    5. dox spam
    6. dox spam
    7. dox spam
    8. dox spam
    9. dox spam
    10. boom spam
    why isn't dox frowned upon instead?
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