Tank not very.. Tanky?

I'm not sure why but I seem to be dying a lot lately as a Tank. The only thing that I'm not dying to seems to be Assassins D:
I can't help but feel the Gunner is more of a Tank than well, the Tank?

Am I supposed to be constantly running away as a Tank because I can't deal any damage due to people being more than 3 feet ahead of me? I've no problems clearing lanes due to the produce grenade and the jet gun, but when it comes to pros... I can't see to get the kills ;[

Try using gold speed. Could help you with closing the gap, flanking people, and getting out of trouble

I'm probably not that great of a tank but on Pubs I do normally get more kills than deaths (although I do a lot of both, finishing a round 25/16 is probably normal for me). Certainly a Tank is meant to be up close and personal, A gunner at 50 feet is bad news. However a gunner at 5 feet or even a gunner at 300 feet the advantage is more towards the tank. I generally like to have Gold rate of fire so the rail gun becomes much more of a weapon.


For me a charge + maybe a death blossom on an unsuspecting pro usually is fairly lethal


Personally I don't like choosing gold speed endorsement on a tank. He's really good taking out bot lanes and you can usually pick up the speed endorsement that way. If you already have gold I'm not sure those speed drops do anything.

Speed doesn't drop from normal bots, only from players, bullseye, and jackbots.

Using a speed endorsement fits some playstyles, and not others. I'm just recommending that he tries it, to see if it does help.


Yes, it's not very useful if you live for a long enough time to have 3 speed pickups for the majority of your life. But if you play more aggressively or if you're having a bit of a rough go and dying a lot, you can't count on having the pickups.


Personally I run Speed/Armor/RoF. I just feel completely gimped playing a close-range class without speed. Bronze RoF makes the jet gun good enough for me, and I don't spam the railgun because I'm not a total wuss. A lot of my damage comes from charge, spin, and grenades anyway, and RoF doesn't help those. Silver armor (plus passive 2) is good enough to survive a sword backstab. The speed actually helps my overall survivability much more than the armor does, and it helps my killing and farming power more than RoF would.

remember that your tankyness is for maintaining your presence in the lane. you can take alot of damage, take cover for a few seconds and have full health again.

you are really, really, really good at taking out bot waves so do that first. Next priority should be easy kills i.e that guy in charge range that you can ring out.

if you are still having problems after applying this, then it is prolly time to check out your endorsement build

hope this helps

edit: dont know how i forgot to bring this up, but turrets! kill them! whenever you get the chance, the jet gun + product grenade is awesome

For my endorsements I've been running with Reload Speed/Armor/Skill Recovery.



See what I mean? I know K/D isn't worth mentioning, but I just can't help feel that it's so low being a Tank and all lol.
I don't usually have any problems with bots or turrets, it's just mostly players. It just feels like everything other than Assassins out damage me due to range, especially the Assault and it's friggin' explosive grenades that it can spam every 2 bloody seconds, at least it feels like that lol. I guess it doesn't help I'm still terrible at aiming product grenades.

I'll try switching to Speed/Armor/RoF and see if that can solve my issues.

RoF/Armour
Armour/RoF
Skill regen

Learn to love the Railgun, friend.

railgun is for girly men

Railgun is for preventing girly men from retreating.

You almost have the optimal tank build IMO.
I run RoF/Ar/Skill

Build order is passive2 and charge2 at game start
passive3
charge3
grenade2
grneade3
deploy2

Charge is the most important skill a tank has due to the increase in mobility it gives you. I am constantly charging all over the map to cover huge amounts of distance. With skill recovery and charge3 the cooldown is about 7s-ish. Use it defensively as well as for offense.

If you want to be a better tank, get Passive 2 and Deploy 2. Everyone underestimates Deploy 2.

Then, whenever you're in trouble, Get out of there, deploy, and watch your health refill in no less than 5 seconds.

This works regardless of endorsements. It's why I can be a decent Tank without running Armor at all.

Getting one-shot by assassins is not being a decent tank

yeah that is the problem without silver armor. if it didnt show your endorsements after a kill to the killie, it might work because they might avoid trying.. lol

than again you cant be oneshot if deployed.. so hmm.

a clip of shurikens or a sniper headshot will kill you even faster than a grapple

My play style is I usually upgrade my passive and grenade to 2 right at the start of the match, hang a right out of the spawn room and fire a grenade to wipe out the first wave of enemy bots.
Depending on the map I'll usually pull back a little then and get a Long Shot up.

It's very rare I'll deploy or even upgrade deploy at all. Perhaps I should start using it..

L2 Passive + L2 Deploy is great. Ducking into cover and healing is retardedly efficient.

Also;

cya is a fool.

Assassin can't get L3 Passive that early in the game, AND it's impossible to grapple deployed Pros. By the time she can, you're well on your way to having L3 Passive - which can survive a back-grapple.

I have two Tank classes; the first one focuses on mobility. It packs;

• Gold Armour,
  Silver Speed,
  Bronze Skill.

The second class is just a damage output class. It rolls;

• Gold ROF,
  Silver Armour,
  Bronze Reload.

Both have their places, the first is good for pushing Bot Lanes and then running the hell away, or running down opposing Pros. The ability to keep pace with Assault is a wonderful feeling

I recommend carrying the railgun the most. Switch to jetgun when you need to deathblossom bots, and to encounter a pro that you can reach. Otherwise, use railgun with silver or better rate of fire, and clear bots and harass pros with it.

Product grenades clear bots at ranges well, and are generally strong against pros at all range if you can block their path with it or make sure to land a hit. Charge is how a tank closes the range gap for his jetgun, hits the enemy for high damage and stun, moves around the map quicker, and escapes in emergencies.

Thus, I recommend for you Gold Skill, Silver Rate, and Bronze Speed. Bronze Speed will be well enough IMO. When you are able to live longer and are more fluent with the tank, switch to reload speed as bronze, as you can shoot more railgun ammo and deathblossom faster with reload speed.

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Railgun spam is soooo boring and annoying. It's only half a step better than playing sniper.

Death blossom bots up close to nuke them. Rail gun bots from afar to push lanes. Do your job and you get paid.

Pros won't think you're weak if you're rolling around in money with upgrades. Especially with Charge 3.

Tanks have better mobility than gunners. Charge can be used for movement, defense, and offense. This can be key to surprising pros with a sudden charge+death blossom.

I upgrade product and charge first because product is fairly useless at level 1. Level 2 is where you do your business. Save your passives for clutch heals.

It's not a half step. It's nearly 1,000 HP better than a sniper.

I like using product 3 to frustrate snipers who want my head.