A list of exploits and trolling tactics

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by LmalukoBR, August 31, 2014.

  1. websterx01

    websterx01 Post Master General

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    I've only ever been trolled in one game so far, and I just ended up leaving since my "team mate"considered every unit his and only his. I had little fun, so I simply left to have fun with a better team mate. If he was the kind who trolled via comm deletion, or pausing, I'd just block him and never worry about it again. As long as we have the tools to keep them away from our games, I'm just fine with the occasional issue.
  2. tatsujb

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  3. exterminans

    exterminans Post Master General

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    Shouldn't be instant SXX snipe on that list too?
  4. thetrophysystem

    thetrophysystem Post Master General

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    BUG REPORT: A quick suggestion, but because of reasons, a lobby name should be limited in length to about 18-36 characters.

    That could use looking at, but ultimately isn't flawlessly reliable, enemy commander can be on patrol. SXX costs a lot, but because of that cost it isn't too bad to allow one to kill any single thing of it's choosing if it lands overhead. That actually only puts certain structures in tactical danger. Nukes and antinukes and teleporters and factories and the commander.

    And the cost for any one of those is balanced. 80k for a commander. 16k for a nuke, cheaper than the nuke but not the launcher so multiple launchers stress test that. 30k for an adv. fact.
  5. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    If you are going to paraphrase me, try to do a better job. I didn't say take a hostile attitude to everyone you meet, I said if you want to avoid trolls don't cross bridges.
  6. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    Guys, I don't want this to get too off topic, lets try to stick to the exploits and trolling methods and possible fixes.

    I want you guys to enumerate possible exploits/trolling and ways of fixing them. And, please, try to be concise and constructive.

    And no, only playing with people you already know is NOT a fix.
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  7. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    I agree putting up on the list.
  8. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    Is to.

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    To expand on that, it's solves your problem completely.

    Problem: Me no like team! Team mean! Me cry!

    Solution A: Me no have friend, me play by self, me do better, me happy.

    Solution B: Me play wid friends, friends who won't be mean, me happy.

    Not a solution a: UBER WAH CHANGE GAME FOR ME

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    I hope that clarified the situation. The point I'm trying to make is that ruining the game so that random people stop trolling you isn't any kind of solution. If the game would be better with a cooldown for interplanetary travel, pause limits or vote for deletion don't you think it would be included already. If there were no trolls you'd hate all these idea, and vehemently reject their inclusion.
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  9. LmalukoBR

    LmalukoBR Well-Known Member

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    First i would like to thank you for adding to the discussion in a manner that is in no way directed to offend the other people on the thread and for exposing your thoughts in such a constructive way. Really you are the prove that it takes an adult to have an adult discussion.

    Now,
    Can you explain how any of the suggested fixes RUIN the game? o_O

    Can you not see this is not a problem one players faces but things that affect the community? And you choose to ignore them cause they don't affect you directly. :rolleyes:

    If you like playing large free-for-alls with 10 players You cant possibly know all of them all the time. So just screw us right?:mad:
    This is why there are such services as punkbuster so that a few people don't ruin the games of the many. This is the reasoning in taking steps to minimize these things.
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  10. bluestrike01

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    A popup for deleting is just anoter pause troll dream :)
    But honestly I don't see the point of deleting a unit.
    There is no unit limit and we can't reclaim there wrecks (and I doubt thats a usefull tactic anyway)
    Only reason I would need to delete a unit is to concede a game and its not that hard to make your commander vunerable or do a suicide :)
  11. schuesseled192

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    We are talking about allies trolling you (except maybe that commander back and forth bit, which is a result of the crazy notion of no space combat btw.) you can play against as many random people as you want mate. The simple fact of the matter is that people on your TEAM especially in shared armies should be people you TRUST.

    As for things ruining games, what happens if you want to retreat out of an orbit you flew to but find that some busybody has insisted on their being a cool down, gg. Want to delete a structure blocking your commander's route away from safety but have to have a vote on it, gg. Want to pause the game for you have an urgent need to release your burden upon returning to find someone has voted to continue and you are now dead. I mean there are so many problems that stem from your fixes that they seem more like errors to me.
  12. brianpurkiss

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    Sometimes units will get stuck on things, like buildings. So buildings will need to be destroyed. Sometimes buildings will accidentally be placed on metal spots. Sometimes suiciding the Commander in the army game type can be a strategic choice instead of a suicidal choice.

    The instances are few and far between, but they are there.
  13. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Brian I wanted to just take a moment and notice your like to post ratio. Mine's about 1:2 yours is nearly 6:7.

    Good on you. ;)

    Edit: Mine's actually about 1:3 but meh. :p
  14. tehtrekd

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    If that's true, I think they need to fire whoever coded that because it doesn't work well at all.
  15. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    No it's hilarious, think of it like a jail. If all trolls are in one area they can troll each other however much they please, and the regular players are fine. (It also means trolls get to experience what it's like on the other side)
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  16. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    Having the most likes of anyone on the forums makes having a good post/like ratio a lot easier. :)
  17. Geers

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    I think Mr. S. Cheese has the best ratio.
  18. thetrophysystem

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    I came from WAY before the like feature, so mine is deceptively low.
  19. brianpurkiss

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    Some of the devs have the best ratios.
  20. Pinworm

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    "Player X wishes to delete your commander. Agree / lock player from deleting your units"

    Yes, players can still be weiners and just select your stuff. But it's a very slight barrier to entry which is sometimes enough. If it stops 10 in 1000 ragequits then I think it's worth it. Because when it's incredibly easy to select a commander and delete it to destroy EVERYTHING, that's going to tempt people. I speak from a position of having felt that temptation when playing with idiots. If I feel it, then I'm sure the less socially inclined will be so as well.

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