Avenger Changes to make things more fun for Orbital!

Discussion in 'Planetary Annihilation General Discussion' started by mered4, August 30, 2014.

  1. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    Hey! YOU! Yeah, you. The guy who just started playing - what's orbital?

    Wait. Hold that thought. Did you say BORING and SLOW? Just you wait a second - orbital isn't a freaking support layer for ground! You should be using it like a weapon, not just a way to get from Generic Moon to Generic Earth Planet. You should be frantically moving your Avengers around, trying to find that one weak spot in that defensive line, or trying to get to that SXX before it gets your Commander.

    I hear you, even now. "Moron, Avengers are slow and hover and are really buggy."
    Sure they are! I thought the same thing.

    So, with the help of my testing minions (they who shall not be named), I changed the way Avengers behaved.

    Here's the spreadsheet with the exact changes:
    https://docs.google.com/spreadsheets/d/1-AvBb9hT23Coqo88DccszRJ5OLQ0XVYAsV8294DDZxQ/edit#gid=0

    They now behave like Hummingbirds do - and not like some sort of flying tank. They have a rapid firing laser, and they move 3.5x faster at max speed.

    The result? Avengers can move across Gas giants fast enough for it to matter in the short term, instead of weird, long space battles. They also allow for a raiding style of play in the orbital layer instead of one of attrition.

    The downside? We had to nerf their acceleration. And we couldn't fix the bugs ourselves. But my God, is it a ton more fun. It's quite awesome to see them strafe satellites :D

    Do you want to try out this change yourself? YOU CAN! Just grab the file attached to this post, unzip it, and chuck into the following folder (make a new server_mods folder if you don't have one already):
    ....[NAME]/AppData/Local/Uber Entertainment/Planetary Annihilation/server_mods.

    Then, make a text file called mods.JSON
    Inside, insert the following code:
    Code:
    {
        "mount_order": [
            "com.mered4.awesomeavengers"
        ]
    }
    Save it, boot up PA, host a game, and voila! You now have AWESOME AVENGERS!

    Play with your friends! Shoot a Death Star! Annihilate some Avengers!

    Murica.

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  2. vorell255

    vorell255 Active Member

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    With the Avengers fast playing on the Gas giants was way more fun. They could actually get from one side to the other in a reasonable amount of time.
  3. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    I'm intrigued! I'm gonna give it a try.

    We really do need another offensive unit in the orbital layer. Right now it's just a pure numbers game, which is a bummer. We need some diversity. We can add diversity without making it overly complex and keep the gameplay emphasis on ground play.
  4. sycspysycspy

    sycspysycspy Active Member

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    Is this a mod?
  5. Geers

    Geers Post Master General

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    We really need a:

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  6. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    Absolutely!
  7. brianpurkiss

    brianpurkiss Post Master General

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    Just gave it a try. It was a lot of fun!
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  8. icycalm

    icycalm Post Master General

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    I've never modded PA before. So, like, I can make my Avengers faster and then go on MP and destroy everyone with them?
  9. schuesseled192

    schuesseled192 Active Member

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    Good question....
  10. ef32

    ef32 Well-Known Member

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    Can you please make a video? Sounds good.
  11. igncom1

    igncom1 Post Master General

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    It'll make theirs go faster too.

    That and the mod will show in the lobby, and you will get questions about what it is.
  12. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    It was really late last night when we played with Brian, we were all too tired to do anything constructive :p

    But today? Hell yeah.
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  13. MrTBSC

    MrTBSC Post Master General

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    i am sry but i don´t want that at all ... remember you have the ssx for attacking ground ... soooo why exactly do we need that?

    how? getting to other planets happens primarily over orbital without austreuses or using orbital fabricators to built teleports there is no other way ... satalites help you scouting the ground, ssx is your primary antiground weapon and anchors your stationanary orbital defence ... so how is that not support to ground?

    avangers are primarily this games superiorityfighters ... that is why we have no T2 fighter ...
    i rather think now that gas giants are in it is rather important to make orbital fun because of that theater and not because of earth or moontype planets as imo orbital is pretty much set there ...
    so sounds rather like tweaking avangers and anchors a bit than anything else ... is there realy a need for more units for gasgiants?
    Last edited: August 30, 2014
  14. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    FTFY :)
  15. MrTBSC

    MrTBSC Post Master General

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    and what else would those bombers do regular bombers, gunships ( yea, air i know) and anchors (yea, i know stationary) dont?

    *whispers* for bombers and gunships to other planets lets have orbital aircraftcarriers ...
  16. mered4

    mered4 Post Master General

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    I think what he really means is something different than the avenger to play with. Even with this mod, it became apparent to us testers that orbital was still only two-dimensional.
  17. MrTBSC

    MrTBSC Post Master General

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    i know, the whole unitvariety thing again ... but remember meaningfull unitvariety and not "just because" ...
    "just because" may make things worse ...
    so again what should the new unit do others don´t? because we still want every unit to be usefull till finish don´t we ?...
  18. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    Yes but it's not "just because" there's a reason. Right now there's only two units, entirely binary and boring. (Three if you count the umbrella) there needs to be more units. Think of how boring land battles would be if it were only the dox and the ant?
  19. MrTBSC

    MrTBSC Post Master General

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    rather the ant and the double laser turret ....
    but my question still aplies ...
  20. squishypon3

    squishypon3 Post Master General

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    True! Just helps to prove the point. :p

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