What's the deal with all the negativity?

Why do all people think Uber is becoming bankrupt? They just wanted to get 1.0 going, you know? Moving into a new development process. They PROMISED working on it after 1.0, so where's the problem? Let's just see how 1.0 will be, and what can be improved after that. Uber could've just called 1.0 "Delta" or something, and it'd be the same. Don't get hurt or scared because of a number.

Sir, if I had known that thread had existed, I would have read it. Forgive me for looking into the support forum for that information instead of the Getting Started with Linux forum.

Edit: Also, snark? That was an attempt at saying something constructive. "Hey we've done that over here" is certainly an acceptable recourse.

Ya, I guess the supporters who are unhappy about not being able to play on their platform are just "snark"-ing.

The title of that forum on it's own is slightly misleading I'll grant you that; it's the linux-specific section of the support forum (there's a link to it at the top of the support forum page). I wasn't having a go at you for failing to see it, just pointing out that in many cases, what people are asking for already exists.

I think that part of the issue with all of the negativity is the perspective taken. We're looking at the things that aren't in the game. Somebody brand new, who doesn't go on forums, or care about them, is going to look only at what is in it long before they complain about what isn't. If I grab a random RTS fan and let them play a fairly stable and smooth (not buggy) build, I have a strong feeling that they will find the game to be awesome, and possibly fairly complex.

All of us older members, and many of the very active ones, like Brian, Knight and Nano, have been here for quite a long time; 1 year myself, the beginning for them. When I came to the game, the second day of Beta, I was hugely impressed with how awesome it was, and all I wanted to do was smash a planet, however, those before me weren't nearly as excited because they wanted more added and polished. I'm not saying that they, and now I, are unreasonable in any way, it's just that the perspective is different than a player totally new to the game, or only slightly familiar.

Nobody is going to ask for a Unit Cannon unless they watch the KS video. People aren't going to think that orbital needs something they don't even know about. Not a huge amount of people are going to complain that there aren't giant space lasers because they don't know about those either. Those are ideas fairly unique to PA, and people aren't going to imagine new things like that (for the most part). For the things that aren't unique, like factions or shields, of course somebody is going to ask for them, and the fairly obvious things, like throwing a planet into the sun, somebody will wonder why we can't do that.

If you look at it from a more objective point of view, I think that PA will succeed in ways that will surprise us, so long as the game is stable, reliable and decently balanced, or at least balanced in a way that isn't boring. Not to mention that the periodic updates planned in the future could easily help to retain players since the game will be slightly different every few months (or weeks, or whatever timescale Uber plans).

Edited for better grammar and stuff.

We weren't talking about them, the snark remarks come from a couple of Windows users actually.

This this this! Like I've said in the past, the general player base has no idea about these features that were assumed to supposed to have been in 1.0

They don't know about them at all, and what I've seen from those sort of people is just happy remarks about the game, and suggestions for some stuff they'd like to see.

Edit: I've been here since early Alpha, still support Uber.

Snark Hunt aside, I do think we have made enough noise to make sure that the issue receives some attention. I'm in the "Lets be Positive" bandwagon at this point, these forums really need it for when we get the coming flood of newcomers.

actually most of the Linux crowd is pretty cool..

Some might argue a good bug report is all that is needed.. no noise required.. and I think I saw in the bug reports were you can say "I also have the issue".. which would constructively tell the devs how many people are also having issues

I did do that. I contributed to the bug tracker, put my vote in on the ticket, and posted to the bottom of the discussion there. Meanwhile, my PA client does not work. So I go back to the forums because I don't feel like playing XCOM. What is there to talk about on the forums? My broken PA. And PAX. Will PA break on SteamOS at PAX? I am concerned. I do think people will want a demonstration.

As cool as Linux is, let's relax a bit about it in this thread. It's ironic to be negative in a thread about the negativity. It's bug tracker'd? Sweet. There's at least 2 threads on it? Cool. Give them time, they'll fix it. There is no way they'd release the game if it doesn't run on 75% of Linux. Don't worry.

Given the kickstarter and all the goals they wanted to reach, which allot of them are in the game i agree. Allot of it is not in the game which would optimise and enhance the play experiance. Ofcourse new people that would buy the game from steam or stores and never have been in touch with the original kickstarter project wouldn't know what should actually be in the game, and that is Ubers savior. But telling us there launching the game because the game has reaches the vision they had in mind, while having the status "release when it's done" concludes that they need money! And that nothing to be ashamed about, i also would rather have EVERY possible thing in it before release, but that seems impossible. I can fully understand there is no transparency on that matter, it would only create more uncertainty and termoil. And all the stuff that might be build after release might come as either DLC or Expansion who knows, that might also be the reason why some of the stuff is still not in the game.

By the way Uber uses PA's pitch/concert video as a trailer on steam.
http://store.steampowered.com/app/233250 <- It's labeled is planetary annihilation trailer

Edit: from steam: Release Date: 13 Jun 2013

Well they use the Supcom trailer for supcom on steam, it has a transport that fits like 20 units at least... It's not in the game either. >:l

No but on a more serious note, the trailer does still say "visualization" or whatever in it, so Uber can't really be held to it, that beta trailer is there as well and is more correct.

From experience people don't understand what visualization means. I've had to explain what visualization on many occasions. A why do people don't grasp the concept or most likely to simply not noticing it.

i never saw the kickstarter...
so, as a huge TA and SC fan, i'm very pleasantly surprised with what i accidentally discovered here, just under a month ago

i was searching for a TA-style android app, but i saw nothing even close

however, i did see where someone posted a link to PA

thank you so much, whoever-you-were

No.

PA is actually doing very well last we heard, sales-wise. What they mean is that they're original vision of a large scale RTS with multiple planets, and the ability to smash, and a streaming economy... Etc... was realised, the main idea behind the game is there, all the core features are there. All we really need now are mostly extra stuff that'd be fun to have.

A lot of people have ideas on what PA should be like since the devs have promised and actually pulled of some insane stuff, but they havent gotten everything down and there will be nitpicking and sorts, and now that its close to release, people are really starting to let loose 'reviews' and stuff since it is no longer branded 'early access' and those reviews wont come under fire for reviewing early access
(personally i think that when a game is put on sale then it should be criticized, it is open to criticism at that point, its vital for early access games but lets not focus on that)

Personally im most hurt over the random planet generation because many planets take from a couple of skins, and each of those skins are slightly varied every time you change a number but no where near enough to actually make a planet feel 'unique'