We all really love dox and all but..

Maybe not so sarcastic on this one, but:

THAT is sarcastic.

I admit that sarcasm was bad, but it was some sarcasm, and sorry if i confused you.

I really don't see why people want AA for the dox. Even if it shoots bad when you have 200 of them together they will still kill anything that comes close. If you have to have a bot AA, Give the role to the grenadier for all i care, since it is a much more expensive unit that cannot travese water so if you use the dox for an amphibious assault you do so with the risk of lack of aerial ground cover.

The rock, paper, scissors mechanic is a interesting one, i don't see why a factory have to have the answer to all the other factories. I think you should be rewarded for building a mixed army of units and factories.

Um tatsu there are no sides.

And I'm in nanolathe's boat here. No unit should have four different uses. That's just lazy.

Fix the dox. Push the changes on the pte so we can try them out and change/modify our opinions.

ok it was just cofusing to me to be arguing against him on this topic and then out of nowhere he's saying the same things as me xD

All games being played are mass DOX. You can not even avoid them in H20 maps, it is really ridiculous. Essentially you have a game that can only be played now, DOX vs DOX. The unit is overpowered and it needs to be changed as far as I see it. Not to mention the cost of them is far far far to low considering what their abilities are. Quite frustrating honestly.

Honestly, I think the "Calvary" role for dox is inappropriate, quick strikes should be reserved for actual calvary, like tanks. Also, tanks should have an AOE attack for addressing bots. Dox should be relatively slow, far seeing, hard to hit, have a moderate attack power, and should be cheap to make en masse. Adding a bunch of speed to the other features is really is what is pushing it to overpowered. Think about it, if that same swarm of dox was attacking you, but was only moving half as fast, how much would that cut their efficacy?

If you want that form of balance play RCBM.

Go play RCBM and be amazed at its greatness....no really play it...if you dont wanna download msg me a time and i can host...

Reaper, a Terran infantry unit. They patched out its building damaging D8 charges long ago.

It wasn't patched out. It was changed in Heart of the Swarm. But I guess no one plays Wings of Liberty anymore so it's probably a moot point.

Dox are OP every game with multiple spawns on one planet evolves around Dox. I currently don't play because I'm sick of the Dox rush. Either you do the same or you get killed. Hope Uber balance this ASAP.

Edit it in a server mod. Check my youtube to see how to make such a mod.

Really, I wouldn't blame you for hosting 99% of lobby games in PA lobby, as modded, with the mod being "I turned down the dox a bit..."

If I played more, and more competitively, I know I would. I would never play a serious game without dox being nerfed in a mod.

Specifically, I would increase their price to 70 and remove their AA. Tsk, I would probably duplicate the exact stats of the Spinner to the Stinger and re-add the stinger to the game (or make bot factory able to build spinners?)

I'd also remove the amphibiousness, navy has already had a bad enough day without dox coming into their home and wreaking them a second time.

Anybody still remember when all land units could go under water?

I do I don't miss it ^=^

The title of this thread is all wrong... We hate Dox! They are all kinds of wrong!

Speak for yourself, I love the scamper.

Was actually a bit happy to get out of the tank rush for a bit, but the buff went a tad bit overboard. Really close though, so good on Uber with that.

TBH. Dox aren't SUPER OP like people say, they are easily outclassed by tanks as everyone says, if your opponent gets a critical mass of T1 tanks vs your T1 bots the battle is already lost. The hard part is getting to that critical mass of tanks which is easily doable if you escort your fabs and defend properly.

There may be legitimate strategies to counter mass Dox builds, however when a strategy becomes a relatively safe bet for the majority of players then this ruins the integrity of the game.

Which is why there is something called the "meta" which is the best strategy available. In my opinion, a game is balanced if there are multiple metas for multiple playstyles meaning there is no be all to end all strat. Then again the game is not finished yet so we shall see in the future.